Alvin Walton
02-27-2016, 05:48 PM
Trading Cousins would be retarded.
No doubt, who the heck would want to start all over with a new quarterback search. It would set the team back two years.
mooby
02-27-2016, 06:30 PM
They were saying earlier yesterday that he most likely is headed to the Rams. Sources said that whatever happened the Redskins have soured on Cousins and appear to be moving in a different direction at QB. No word on if this means RG3 will be staying. It sure sounds like it...
Update: NFL.com reports that Redskins are going to place "transition" tag on Cousins, so that means he can negotiate with other teams, right??
Why do they want Cousins gone? WTF happened?
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Chico23231
02-27-2016, 07:48 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeGarafolo?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eser p%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Makes sense if true. Looks like 16.5 million could be the end number...would be appropriate value
DYoungJelly
02-27-2016, 10:44 PM
Washington To Use Tag On Kirk Cousins? (http://www.profootballrumors.com/washington-to-use-tag-on-kirk-cousins/)
These are rumors, as indicated by the name of the website but. . .
If the team is offering 15mpy and Kirk wants 19mpy, a deal definitely gets done. 15m is a low ball offer.
Bangee7
02-27-2016, 11:02 PM
Washington To Use Tag On Kirk Cousins? (http://www.profootballrumors.com/washington-to-use-tag-on-kirk-cousins/)
These are rumors, as indicated by the name of the website but. . .
If the team is offering 15mpy and Kirk wants 19mpy, a deal definitely gets done. 15m is a low ball offer.
I agree...definitely room to get this done.
$12.5M as an initial offer was definitely low-ball.
$16-$17M / year seems right.
Hijinx
02-28-2016, 01:05 AM
Why on Earth would the Skins even consider the Transition tag? It only saves about 2 million over a Franchise tag, and unlike the non-exclusive FT the Skins get zero compensation if KC signs elsewhere. Whereas with the non-exclusive FT the Skins would get 1 first round picks should KC leave.
Frankly I don't how much difference there is in salary between the exclusive and non-exclusive FT, but I wouldn't risk a team being willing to pay the 2 draft picks. Give him the exclusive and keep negotiating.
That Guy
02-28-2016, 04:12 AM
i too, would avoid the transition tag if i were in charge. needless risk.
KI Skins Fan
02-28-2016, 10:17 AM
Washington To Use Tag On Kirk Cousins? (http://www.profootballrumors.com/washington-to-use-tag-on-kirk-cousins/)
These are rumors, as indicated by the name of the website but. . .
If the team is offering 15mpy and Kirk wants 19mpy, a deal definitely gets done. 15m is a low ball offer.
From the article: "No player in the league did more over the last four weeks of the regular season to help his stock than Cousins, who completed 74% of his passes for nearly 1,200 yards, while posting a 12:1 touchdown-to-interception ratio to go along with a 134.0 quarterback rating. For the season, Cousins thew 29 touchdowns against 11 interceptions, led the league in completion percentage (69.8%), and helped Washington win its first division title since 2012."
Conclusion: This deal gets done. Jay Gruden's offense and Kirk Cousins' skillset are just too good of a match for the deal to not get done.
Now, as for the contract amount: Let's see, add 15 plus 19, then divide by 2...
Kirk will be paid an average of $17MM per season, which he should be because it is fair for where he ranks among NFL QB's. That would be a good deal for the Skins because Kirk's going to get better. He could end up in the Top 10 of NFL QB's. Also, if I were Kirk, my ego would not allow me to accept one cent less than the Skins paid RGIII to sit on the bench all last season ($16.5MM). I'd bet he and his agent feel the same way.
Schneed10
02-28-2016, 10:51 AM
From the article: "No player in the league did more over the last four weeks of the regular season to help his stock than Cousins, who completed 74% of his passes for nearly 1,200 yards, while posting a 12:1 touchdown-to-interception ratio to go along with a 134.0 quarterback rating. For the season, Cousins thew 29 touchdowns against 11 interceptions, led the league in completion percentage (69.8%), and helped Washington win its first division title since 2012."
Conclusion: This deal gets done. Jay Gruden's offense and Kirk Cousins' skillset are just too good of a match for the deal to not get done.
Now, as for the contract amount: Let's see, add 15 plus 19, then divide by 2...
Kirk will be paid an average of $17MM per season, which he should be because it is fair for where he ranks among NFL QB's. That would be a good deal for the Skins because Kirk's going to get better. He could end up in the Top 10 of NFL QB's. Also, if I were Kirk, my ego would not allow me to accept one cent less than the Skins paid RGIII to sit on the bench all last season ($16.5MM). I'd bet he and his agent feel the same way.
Everything you said was solid right up until you got your facts wrong like a presidential candidate. Robert was not paid 16M to sit on the bench last year, that number represents the salary he'd have this upcoming season if kept on the roster. He was paid somewhere in the neighborhood of 4M to 5M last year under the last year of his rookie deal before the Redskins exercised the option.
Bangee7
02-28-2016, 10:53 AM
never mind....
Schneed beat me to it