Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

ESPN wanted to be cool and make their own QBR that nobody even really cares about. They go based off of many things not just passing stats.

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Kirk still hasn't had a big TD game yet. It's coming, once we start scoring in the RZ again. I wouldn't be shocked to see a 4 or 5 td day in the next few weeks

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Terry Bradshaw offers bold opinion on Kirk Cousins (http://was.247sports.com/Bolt/Terry-Bradshaw-offers-bold-opinion-on-Kirk-Cousins--48665767)


I like the way ol' Terry thinks.

Cousins has played fine after the first 2 games of the season.

These last 8 will determine a lot....if we come out with a winning record, Cousins contract will be massive. Right now, 20 mil per is probably where the team is at....

Kirk still hasn't had a big TD game yet. It's coming, once we start scoring in the RZ again. I wouldn't be shocked to see a 4 or 5 td day in the next few weeks

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I'm expecting it this week! (think he's got a Play60 game going)

Charley Casserly weighs in on market value for Kirk Cousins.

This from Jamie Oaks of 247sports.com:

Halfway through the 2016 season, it’s natural to start considering the big decision before the Washington Redskins as it relates to Kirk Cousins.

Playing on the franchise tag this season for $19.95 million, the Redskins have a big decision to make.

Let Cousins hit the open market, sign him longterm, or franchise him again at a staggering $24 million for 2017.

Former Redskins general manager and now NFL analyst Charley Casserly has chimed in on the subject.

“As a player today, to me, [Cousins is] Andy Dalton,” started Casserly on CSN Mid-Atlantic. “Good, solid quarterback but he’s not on the next level. He’s Andy Dalton.”

Dalton is currently playing out a six-year, $96 million deal, averaging $16 million per season, making the Cousins’ contract situation even more complex.

“I tell you what, you don’t want to lose him. So, you franchise him at 24 [million], now he has no incentive to sign, now he’s gambling on 35 [million if franchised for a third time] in the next year.

“My question is this, if he goes to free agency, I don’t see the Jets, the Browns, the Bears paying this guy north of $20 million, north of $50-60 [million] guaranteed.”

With Brock Osweiler earning $18 million a year, where does Cousins fit in?

“I think [Cousins] gets north of that number,” said Casserly when asked about Osweiler’s contract. “If this is the guy that finishes out, the way that he’s going, I don’t think you have a choice. You’re going to have to swallow it and pay him the money."

“I think that’s where the market’s going to be, the upper $19 [millions] to the low $20 [millions]. I think that’s where the market is going to be for him.”

Charley Casserly weighs in on market value for Kirk Cousins.

This from Jamie Oaks of 247sports.com:

Halfway through the 2016 season, it’s natural to start considering the big decision before the Washington Redskins as it relates to Kirk Cousins.

Playing on the franchise tag this season for $19.95 million, the Redskins have a big decision to make.

Let Cousins hit the open market, sign him longterm, or franchise him again at a staggering $24 million for 2017.

Former Redskins general manager and now NFL analyst Charley Casserly has chimed in on the subject.

“As a player today, to me, [Cousins is] Andy Dalton,” started Casserly on CSN Mid-Atlantic. “Good, solid quarterback but he’s not on the next level. He’s Andy Dalton.”

Dalton is currently playing out a six-year, $96 million deal, averaging $16 million per season, making the Cousins’ contract situation even more complex.

“I tell you what, you don’t want to lose him. So, you franchise him at 24 [million], now he has no incentive to sign, now he’s gambling on 35 [million if franchised for a third time] in the next year.

“My question is this, if he goes to free agency, I don’t see the Jets, the Browns, the Bears paying this guy north of $20 million, north of $50-60 [million] guaranteed.”

With Brock Osweiler earning $18 million a year, where does Cousins fit in?

“I think [Cousins] gets north of that number,” said Casserly when asked about Osweiler’s contract. “If this is the guy that finishes out, the way that he’s going, I don’t think you have a choice. You’re going to have to swallow it and pay him the money."

“I think that’s where the market’s going to be, the upper $19 [millions] to the low $20 [millions]. I think that’s where the market is going to be for him.”

I think Casserly is joining in at TW's parties. If KC's numbers stay where they are, or improve, (especially w/o TW in attendance for 4 games), his contract number is going to be 23/year with 80m guaranted, and that's just the starting point. What are the Skins going to do? start all over when you have a qb who is growing more confident and stable each season. I don't think so. And the Skins have never been a cheapskate franchise. Bruce Allen will structure the contract to minimize the impact of the number, although clearly it will have some impact.

If this was a prove it year for KC, so far he's winning that bet.

ESPN wanted to be cool and make their own QBR that nobody even really cares about. They go based off of many things not just passing stats.

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It is a way, WAY better metric than passer rating, which is an absolutely horrendous stat. If you go 4/4 for 65 yards on a drive in a one-score game in the 4th quarter, that gets you the same passer rating as if you go 4/4 for 65 yards in a drive during garbage time when you're down by 21 points in the fourth quarter.

I can fully and completely explain QBR to anybody interested, it definitely should be used instead of passer rating.

It is a way, WAY better metric than passer rating, which is an absolutely horrendous stat. If you go 4/4 for 65 yards on a drive in a one-score game in the 4th quarter, that gets you the same passer rating as if you go 4/4 for 65 yards in a drive during garbage time when you're down by 21 points in the fourth quarter.

I can fully and completely explain QBR to anybody interested, it definitely should be used instead of passer rating.

I admit that I don't understand QBR. Nevertheless, rating Kirk as the 4th most productive QB seems too high to me under any valid system because we have not been a good Red Zone team and Kirk doesn't run very much.

Kirk is middle of the pack as far as ESPN's QBR goes, 14th currently.