Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

Lets not completely burn down Cousins chances of turning into a top ten QB though. I think one very important aspect of stats is looking at them over the long haul, and not in a little window - where all of those situational factors are going to really effect the outcome.
Yes KC has weapons, and the oline has been great with pass pro. However our D certainly has not helped the offense by keeping them in rhythm and on the field. Our run game (minus last week) has been completely irrelevant for most of the time KC has been our starter. Teams dont even worry about it. So KC has done what he has done against defenses keying on the pass almost entirely.

Excellent point, he can still get better. 28 years old is not peak for QB play, especially when you sat for a few years.

i had a dream that we won the super bowl, my first thought was "now we have to pay kirk."

At this rate KC is going to get paid. Nothing to worry about.

At what rate? 2 bad games then 2 good games? At that rate I hope he's getting paid somewhere else,we can pick up Brian Hoyer or Jay Cutler for a whole lot less for a inconsistent mediocre qb.
Now if he can go on a run like last year then it's a different ballgame,but drawing conclusions after 4 games is .......

At what rate? 2 bad games then 2 good games? At that rate I hope he's getting paid somewhere else,we can pick up Brian Hoyer or Jay Cutler for a whole lot less for a inconsistent mediocre qb.
Now if he can go on a run like last year then it's a different ballgame,but drawing conclusions after 4 games is .......

Mediocre gets paid now, it's a QB league.

The rule changes are trending even more toward it being a QB league.

At what rate? 2 bad games then 2 good games? At that rate I hope he's getting paid somewhere else,we can pick up Brian Hoyer or Jay Cutler for a whole lot less for a inconsistent mediocre qb.

Now if he can go on a run like last year then it's a different ballgame,but drawing conclusions after 4 games is .......


I'm looking at how he's improved since weeks 1 and 2 and taking into account what he did last year as well.

Hoyer or Cutler?? Get the F outta here.

I'm looking at how he's improved since weeks 1 and 2 and taking into account what he did last year as well.

Hoyer or Cutler?? Get the F outta here.

Yea really.

The bigger point is we can win with him now and he is only going to get better. Those guy aren't winners.

If Kirk had a defense and the offense was balanced to support him we would be a perennial playoff contender vying for the conference, much less the division.

Having to score more than 30 a game to win is tough.

At what rate? 2 bad games then 2 good games? At that rate I hope he's getting paid somewhere else,we can pick up Brian Hoyer or Jay Cutler for a whole lot less for a inconsistent mediocre qb.
Now if he can go on a run like last year then it's a different ballgame,but drawing conclusions after 4 games is .......

Simply put, some of us have more faith in Kirk than you do. That's all there is to it, actually. Regardless of fans like me who believe in Kirk, you're going to get what you want because the Redskins brass are going to evaluate him based on his play this entire season (and other factors) before attempting to sign him to a long-term contract. That's what the Franchise tag was all about.

The decision that the Redskins make about Kirk will only be about whether or not they should go forward with Kirk as their starting QB. By that I mean, the only question is "Once the team has been built around KC, can the Redskins win a Super Bowl with him as their starting QB?". It's not about the money because SM has made it clear that the Skins will be willing to pay fair market value to get the QB they want. Also, Kirk doesn't need to be a future All-Pro or Top 10 QB for the answer to the Big Question to be "Yes".

At his point, what you seem to be attempting to do is to convince people like me who have more faith in Kirk than you do to have less faith in him until we see his full season body of work. You should try to understand that it's not as if those of us who already believe in Kirk don't realize that he might fail - we do. Still, in my case, I don't choose to temper my enthusiasm about Kirk's future. It's more fun for me that way.

I think cousins was really pressing the first couple games...I'm gonna let him settle down and play out the rest of the season

I'm looking at how he's improved since weeks 1 and 2 and taking into account what he did last year as well.

Hoyer or Cutler?? Get the F outta here.

I see where you're coming from,if he continues on that path he has for the last 2 games then its all well and good,but if not then he's no better than those I mentioned.

Simply put, some of us have more faith in Kirk than you do. That's all there is to it, actually. Regardless of fans like me who believe in Kirk, you're going to get what you want because the Redskins brass are going to evaluate him based on his play this entire season (and other factors) before attempting to sign him to a long-term contract. That's what the Franchise tag was all about.

The decision that the Redskins make about Kirk will only be about whether or not they should go forward with Kirk as their starting QB. By that I mean, the only question is "Once the team has been built around KC, can the Redskins win a Super Bowl with him as their starting QB?". It's not about the money because SM has made it clear that the Skins will be willing to pay fair market value to get the QB they want. Also, Kirk doesn't need to be a future All-Pro or Top 10 QB for the answer to the Big Question to be "Yes".

At his point, what you seem to be attempting to do is to convince people like me who have more faith in Kirk than you do to have less faith in him until we see his full season body of work. You should try to understand that it's not as if those of us who already believe in Kirk don't realize that he might fail - we do. Still, in my case, I don't choose to temper my enthusiasm about Kirk's future. It's more fun for me that way.

Excellent post.
Your right,I dont have as much faith in Kirk as some,but I want Kirk to succeed as much as anybody.But my recent postings was just about people saying pay Kirk and bringing up stats after 4 games,way too premature for that.
And even in his run last year he still had some clunkers,I mean how does he lose to Dallas on MNF to a backup thats not even in the league anymore? And that goes for this yr too? Dak not only showed more poise in that game but in the 4 games I've seen Dak play he's showed me more poise then Cousins has in 5 years.
2 examples,the Philly game last yr when he kneeled down before the half to ruin our chances for a score,then this year when Jay opted to try and score with 5 or 6 seconds left{fucking terrible coaching} and Kirk held onto the ball and took a sack instead of throwing it away.That gentlemen does not show grace under pressure.
In my book Kirk still has a lot to prove and hopefully he will because it's going to be on his shoulders with this defense and our shitty coaches he has a lot to overcome.
But if Kirk continues at his inconsistent play why pay him? Look what Dak and Wentz have done this year,we can always draft another QB :laughing-:devil: