Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread


SolidSnake84
08-01-2016, 08:16 PM
So someone of importance thinks that if Cousins goes out this year and is a top ten QB, and leads us to infinity and beyond that the Redskins do not care because they are already sure he is not coming back????
Wow.
I hope that said person is let go before Cousins. Its hard to even have this conversation because we have been in QB hell for two decades. Now we have what appears to be a potential star in the making - very early on in his career- and brass is letting Cooley know that there is almost no chance he comes back? All this before he even plays a pre season game in his first true year going into the season as the starter?

I'm not 100% sure that it was Cooley, but it was a semi-relevant Redskin. I'm trying to go back and find the link so i can post it for you guys to give your thoughts on the piece. Numerous articles on Scott M - defending his thinking, and believing that they can find a "budget" QB that will be able to be "Just as good" as Cousins, while costing far less. Moneyball at the QB position, if you will.

IMO, Cousins' best chance for a big payday is that he plays well enough this year that someone wants to give him the long term deal with the security that he has been after. If he plays lights out and the skins go deep in the playoffs, that is really the worst case for the skins because he at that point would be in the neighborhood range of 22 - 24 million, which the Skins flat out won't pay. But somebody will. Ever since this whole story has been going on, here are the teams that I think have the best chance to get Cousins in 2017, and make sense.

Miami
Denver
San Francisco
New York Jets

CRedskinsRule
08-01-2016, 08:33 PM
I'm not 100% sure that it was Cooley, but it was a semi-relevant Redskin. I'm trying to go back and find the link so i can post it for you guys to give your thoughts on the piece. Numerous articles on Scott M - defending his thinking, and believing that they can find a "budget" QB that will be able to be "Just as good" as Cousins, while costing far less. Moneyball at the QB position, if you will.

IMO, Cousins' best chance for a big payday is that he plays well enough this year that someone wants to give him the long term deal with the security that he has been after. If he plays lights out and the skins go deep in the playoffs, that is really the worst case for the skins because he at that point would be in the neighborhood range of 22 - 24 million, which the Skins flat out won't pay. But somebody will. Ever since this whole story has been going on, here are the teams that I think have the best chance to get Cousins in 2017, and make sense.

Miami
Denver
San Francisco
New York Jets

If the Skins get deep in the playoffs, and KC is at all part of the solution, he will sign a contract here for at least 6 year, 150 million, 70 million guaranteed. Feel free to bookmark this if you need to.

MTK
08-01-2016, 09:26 PM
Once again, why bother giving KC $20m this year if there's little chance of him being here long term? If SM wanted to play money ball, $20m could have shored up a few other positions. And if you're ok win paying him $20m this year, why wouldn't you be ok with paying him $24m next year as long as he earns it?

KI Skins Fan
08-02-2016, 09:48 AM
I'm not 100% sure that it was Cooley, but it was a semi-relevant Redskin. I'm trying to go back and find the link so i can post it for you guys to give your thoughts on the piece. Numerous articles on Scott M - defending his thinking, and believing that they can find a "budget" QB that will be able to be "Just as good" as Cousins, while costing far less. Moneyball at the QB position, if you will.

IMO, Cousins' best chance for a big payday is that he plays well enough this year that someone wants to give him the long term deal with the security that he has been after. If he plays lights out and the skins go deep in the playoffs, that is really the worst case for the skins because he at that point would be in the neighborhood range of 22 - 24 million, which the Skins flat out won't pay. But somebody will. Ever since this whole story has been going on, here are the teams that I think have the best chance to get Cousins in 2017, and make sense.

Miami
Denver
San Francisco
New York Jets

The highlighted quote is truly the most ridiculous thing I can remember reading on this site.

MTK
08-02-2016, 11:29 AM
There isn't a coach or GM in the league that would prefer a game manager over a stud QB.

punch it in
08-02-2016, 12:09 PM
The highlighted quote is truly the most ridiculous thing I can remember reading on this site.



Come on man , you never want your team going deep into the playoffs with your qb playing like a stud when you can get rid of him for a game manager and than win a super bowl. Jeez.

Chico23231
08-02-2016, 12:12 PM
Come on folks with this Cousins talk...I don't get it because its simply nothing to get. Cousins will be a Skins as long as he keeps on this path he has built since entering the league. Lets enjoy this run with a decent QB.

punch it in
08-02-2016, 12:21 PM
Come on SOLID SNAKE with this Cousins talk...I don't get it because its simply nothing to get. Cousins will be a Skins as long as he keeps on this path he has built since entering the league. Lets enjoy this run with a decent QB.


Fixed it for ya.

Stacks42
08-02-2016, 02:48 PM
Well played Redskins!! They put Kirk's face on the Cleveland Browns game ticket. Way to burn RG3.

JoeRedskin
08-02-2016, 06:25 PM
Can't find the link right now but I was listening to Redskins on the radio, and I BELIEVE that it was Cooley who said he thinks there is a less than 1% chance Cousins gets re-signed based on what he has seen and heard around Redskins park. I always felt like Cooley was a pretty sensible guy, ie - not saying crazy stuff generally..

So ... here is the "1% chance" stuff about signing Cousins. It was from LaCanfora and was dealing with the chances of signing Cousins to a long-term deal after signing the franchise tender. It had/has nothing to do with signing him long-term next year:

La Canfora offered up his own projections earlier in the week in assessing the odds of each team extending its franchise-tagged player before Friday’s 4 p.m. deadline. He put the Redskins’ chances of landing a deal with Kirk Cousins at one percent.
“I can remember the piece I wrote in November when they first met in Chicago and basically they told his camp, ‘You’re never going to hit the open market this offseason,'” he told Dukes.

“And even at the time, I reported then it was close to certain the Redskins would franchise this guy if they had to. And [Cousins] was already spinning it forward, knowing with his agents, once they do that, I’m going to sign it.

“And then once the thing’s signed, and the quarterback market explodes the way it did, then I think this has always been sort of the short-term endgame. And, you know, these guys haven’t had to pay big bucks to a quarterback, I mean, really ever, right?”

...

“If he plays well, he’s not leaving,” La Canfora ironed out the bottom line. “They’ll have to overpay to keep him and maybe three years from now there’s some ramifications to it, but, again, I think given all that they’ve gone through at that position, I think you could sign them up for that.”

La Canfora: Redskins Are A Sleeping Giant « CBS DC (http://washington.cbslocal.com/2016/07/13/redskins-sleeping-giant-may-finally-be-awakening/)

The concept that KC is a one-and-done player if he takes us deep into the play-offs is just beyond silly and not a point worth acknowledging much less debating. I only chime in on this b/c I saw this clip and remembered the reference to a "1% chance of resigning" with some vague allegations of who said it and when.

Said it before, will say it again: Kirk plays well, Kirk gets paid and Kirk stays. Kirk does not play well, Kirk does not get paid and Kirk goes. If he goes, it is back to the f'ing QB drawing board one more time - which would suck big giant goat testicles.

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