Hijinx
03-02-2016, 05:21 PM
Nobody would give 2 first rounders plus a big contract for Kirk Cousins so you guys can just stop. He'll be a Redskin, whether under a long term deal or under the franchise tag.
If you were the Texans and your 1st round pick is 22nd, would you rather
Use you 22nd pick on subpar/unproven QB
Give up your 22nd plus more picks (maybe next year's 1st) to draft unproven QB
OR give up your 22nd pick and next year's 1st for a QB that was pretty good in his only full year starting.
Remember that option 2 may end up costing as much as option 3 or more in terms of draft picks. Also that this draft is widely considered poor in terms of QB skill. A team like the Texans(or Broncos) who have a late first round pick and a need at QB might take option 3.
NC_Skins
03-02-2016, 05:37 PM
OR give up your 22nd pick and next year's 1st for a QB that was pretty good in his only full year starting.
He's still in year 4 AND the good was a sample size of 8-9 games. No I wouldn't shell out 2 first rounders and a huge contract for something like that.
SCRedskinsFan
03-02-2016, 05:49 PM
If you were the Texans and your 1st round pick is 22nd, would you rather
Use you 22nd pick on subpar/unproven QB
Give up your 22nd plus more picks (maybe next year's 1st) to draft unproven QB
OR give up your 22nd pick and next year's 1st for a QB that was pretty good in his only full year starting.
Remember that option 2 may end up costing as much as option 3 or more in terms of draft picks. Also that this draft is widely considered poor in terms of QB skill. A team like the Texans(or Broncos) who have a late first round pick and a need at QB might take option 3.
The rookie contract under your option 2 would be way less than making a deal with Kirk Cousins. So no, option 2 wouldn't be anywhere near the cost of option 3.
Hijinx
03-02-2016, 05:55 PM
The rookie contract under your option 2 would be way less than making a deal with Kirk Cousins. So no, option 2 wouldn't be anywhere near the cost of option 3.
Read the sentence, In terms of draft picks. Besides the Cap is getting a fair sized bump this year and no one is going to complain about paying a QB. Of course you only do this if you are sure he sign a multi year deal.
Hijinx
03-02-2016, 05:57 PM
He's still in year 4 AND the good was a sample size of 8-9 games. No I wouldn't shell out 2 first rounders and a huge contract for something like that.
Pretty sure he played 16 games last year and he was good in most of them. The Redskins as a whole weren't great in many of them.
CRedskinsRule
03-02-2016, 06:03 PM
If you were the Texans and your 1st round pick is 22nd, would you rather
Use you 22nd pick on subpar/unproven QB
Give up your 22nd plus more picks (maybe next year's 1st) to draft unproven QB
OR give up your 22nd pick and next year's 1st for a QB that was pretty good in his only full year starting.
Remember that option 2 may end up costing as much as option 3 or more in terms of draft picks. Also that this draft is widely considered poor in terms of QB skill. A team like the Texans(or Broncos) who have a late first round pick and a need at QB might take option 3.
The main problem is that the Redskins have right of first refusal. They can put together any deal they want (that they can live with) and the Redskins simply sign the deal instead, and you have to assume they would for any near standard deal.
Hijinx
03-02-2016, 06:12 PM
I'm just curious to know when was the last time a team traded two first-round picks (or even one first rounder) for a player with the non-exclusive tag. Anyone know? I think Cassel was trader for a second rounder.
Cassel was traded, the Pats just put the tag on him to keep him from being a free agent. The only time I remember anyone giving up the picks to sign a franchise player was Dallas did it in 2000 for Joey Galloway. There might be others I just don't remember any.
It is rare at best, but like I said QBs are hardly ever given the non exclusive tag.
Hijinx
03-02-2016, 06:17 PM
The main problem is that the Redskins have right of first refusal. They can put together any deal they want (that they can live with) and the Redskins simply sign the deal instead, and you have to assume they would for any near standard deal.
The Texans have about $40 million more in Cap space than the Skins. If the contract was heavily front loaded the Skins might not be able to match it.
Nobody is going to trade for him. End of story. Scot and co did their homework, guaranteed.
CRedskinsRule
03-02-2016, 07:26 PM
The Texans have about $40 million more in Cap space than the Skins. If the contract was heavily front loaded the Skins might not be able to match it.
Texans have 32M in cap space. We have 35.5M tied up in the QB position. Then when we release Griffin we are in the same place that the Texans would be after taking on any KC contract.
But Matty is right, no team is gonna try to sign him.
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