Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

I think most of us can appreciate both sides of the argument, but it's hard to be in this discussion without arguing for one side or the other. I say sign him because that's what's best, but it's still not a slam dunk decision- there are some drawbacks to this and there will be pressure for McCloughan to hit in the draft and for existing players to develop.

Everyone knows that the draft is a crapshoot. And if McCloughan is not fortunate enough he could be on the hot seat. And I believe he is the one person that has helped this team turn it around the most.

If it's unfair to anyone, it's McCloughan. I just don't want to chase him away.

I think if McCloughan quite literally plays moneyball at the QB position and it backfires horribly, that will for sure end his tenure here and most likely his NFL career.

Another great poster here outlined the scenario - It is sometime late in December and the 2-11 Washington Redskins are starting Nate Sudfeld because Colt McCoy has been out for the season with an injury, facing the 12-2 Denver Broncos led by Kirk Cousins and a first year head coach.

I think most everyone thinks Cousins is a good QB and may turn into a great QB. But it's not a given. The only problem is he will be paid like he's a great QB already. And the more money that you give him, the less you can give someone else.

So you're saying, if we build a complete team with a crappy quarterback, we might win some games and maybe a Super Bowl? Sounds iffy, but let's give it a shot.

This is easier said than done.

How do the Patriots , Seattle, Denver (last year), Giants, Baltimore, Carolina (last year) do it?

What about great/good defenses with large contracts at qb position- Houston, Dallas, Kansas City, cincy?

Is it magic?

So you're saying, if we build a complete team with a crappy quarterback, we might win some games and maybe a Super Bowl? Sounds iffy, but let's give it a shot.



Yeah that's EXACTLY what I said.

If you call Cousins a crappy qb.

If you can't get I'm being sarcastic- no that's not close to anything I've said.

There is no chance colt McCoy starts next year even if kirk isn't back.

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But if the skins won't pay Cousins, how are the other teams able to do it, i mean the teams who want them as their QB.

The way the Redskins explain it, it's almost a "If you have one, we can't have the other" - So, we pay $$$ for the QB, but then we can't afford a good defense. OR, if we build up the defense, we can't pay a starting QB.

How do good teams do it?

They can do both and they know it. When you hear McCloughan say we have to worry about all 53, that's nothing but posturing to maintain what little leverage they have in the negotiation. They know they're going to have to pony up, it's just a matter of keeping his number lower.

If you see them franchise him for a second year in a row, I think then you can read it as a genuine question in their minds that he's the guy. Until then, consider it nothing but gamesmanship.

But here's the question- how do you contend if you aren't confident that you have a great or elite player on either side of the ball?

Looking at recent history, haven't they had at least one player that was elite that won the Super Bowl?

But here's the question- how do you contend if you aren't confident that you have a great or elite player on either side of the ball?

Looking at recent history, haven't they had at least one player that was elite that won the Super Bowl?

Trent Williams and Jordan Reed are certainly elite at their positions. Josh Norman is one of the best CB in the league.