2016 CBS/NFLdraftscout Big Board

Could you share the link please??

Well video on bleacher report so take it with a grain of salt

Insider Buzz: Redskins Targeting Ohio State WR Michael Thomas in Draft | Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2625455-insider-buzz-redskins-targeting-ohio-state-wr-michael-thomas-in-draft)

I think too much of Scott that anyone in the front office/scouting department would be dumb enough to risk being fired for leaking information.

Any "inside" info leaked to reporters via an unnamed/unknown team source during the lead up to the draft is IMHO bullshit leaked purposely

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Yeah obvious smokescreen

well, they said he's at the top of our WR board, he could still technically be 20+ slots down the combined list. our FO probably does like him, but that doesn't really mean anything in and of itself.

Take Ryan Kelly at #21

"Kelly was a three-year starter at center for the Crimson Tide. This is an easy player to evaluate. He has ideal size, toughness and awareness. In the run game, he has quick feet to fit up, turn and wall off defenders. He can create movement against opponents over his nose. He takes excellent angles to the second level and he has the agility to adjust in space. In pass pro, he shoots his hands in tight and steers defenders. He can bend and anchor easily and he's assignment aware. Overall, this player has Pro Bowl potential and should be ready to start Day 1."

Then, trade up (Yes, I wrote up) in the 2nd Round and take a D-Lineman with a 1st Round grade who slipped into Round 2. There are so many exceptional D-Linemen this year that they can't all be drafted in the 1st Round.

Do you have Kelly as your 21st(ish) rated prospect?

I don't have him anywhere near top 20. And the reason why I don't have him rated that high is precisely for the same reason that you want to trade up: a deep draft at the D-line position.

I'm philosophically opposed to trading up in the early draft......UNLESS we first traded back and used those picks to move up.

Now if Conklin or Decker fall to 21? I'm in on that....move them to OG then Long to Center.
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I don't rank players at all. I just trust certain people who do it for a living. Also, I know which players I've seen who I like for our team.

I believe that there is no such thing as true BPA pick in any draft beyond the first five or ten picks. I heard Brian Billick say that, in the many draft rooms he's been in, it's uncanny how the BPA always matched up with a team need. Human nature and common sense come into play. So, I don't think Kelly needs to be ranked in the Top 25 by the Redskins to be picked in the 21st spot by them.

We badly need a starting center. Also, I believe it would be nearly a sin to miss out on a good interior defensive lineman in this draft. I'm hoping we get both and I don't care how it's done. I'd be fine if we took a D-Lineman at #21 and C Nick Martin of ND in the second round.

Kelly and Martin are the only centers I like in this draft. There's no reason to draft a backup C later, IMO. But what do I know compared to SM?

I don't rank players at all. I just trust certain people who do it for a living. Also, I know which players I've seen who I like for our team.I was only asking where you rank Kelly because this thread is all about where players are ranked on the "Big Board".

Tangent: I think during the run up to the draft is imho the time when you get the least accurate information about draft prospects. NFL team's are notoriously protective of their draft thoughts. They often times engage in pumping or sinking draft opinion based on information they purposefully feed to their draft media counterparts. The draft media relies on this (often purposefully false) information in part because there are simply too many prospects to accurately evaluate/rank. Case in point was Miles Killebrew; who was being talked up as a big hitting safety but the player the draftniks described wasn't the player that appeared on the available game tape. Trust. But verify.

I believe that there is no such thing as true BPA pick in any draft beyond the first five or ten picks.Completely disagree.

...I heard Brian Billick say that, in the many draft rooms he's been in, it's uncanny how the BPA always matched up with a team need.IIRC Billick said that during the combine? I suspect we have different understanding of what he meant.

I think he was referring to 2 circumstances: (1) no team every admits/thinks they "reached" for a player; they always claim the player they selected was "the BPA on their board" (2) draft boards can become artificially manipulated by internal team "needs" or GMs or HCs who have pull in draft boardrooms

So, I don't think Kelly needs to be ranked in the Top 25 by the Redskins to be picked in the 21st spot by them.I completely disagree.
For any pick to make sense to me they need to be ranked in the range where they are selected.(Unless of course its a situation where a player slated to go higher falls to a lower pick) What this sounds like to me, is justification of a reach.

We badly need a starting center. Also, I believe it would be nearly a sin to miss out on a good interior defensive lineman in this draft. I'm confused. You're advocating passing over, by your own account "good interior DL", to select Kelly. Then advocating trading up to get a DL because it would be "sin" to miss out on this year's DL.

I also disagree with our level of "need" at the Center position, and the general idea of drafting for need. In my view free agency is about need not the draft.

I'm hoping we get both and I don't care how it's done. I'd be fine if we took a D-Lineman at #21 and C Nick Martin of ND in the second round.I could certainly get on board with that. But, net-net I'm don't have Center as a top area to address for this team. And I believe there is a good chance a solution is found internally between Josh, Arie and Spencer.

There's no reason to draft a backup C later, IMO.Imo there are a bunch of reason to draft an OL that could be Center later in the draft. Depth, development, versatility or it could simply be that OL is the BPA.

I think too much of Scott that anyone in the front office/scouting department would be dumb enough to risk being fired for leaking information.

Any "inside" info leaked to reporters via an unnamed/unknown team source during the lead up to the draft is IMHO bullshit leaked purposely

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Who does McC pick at 21?

Everbody opinion is welcomed.

Im thinking it one of these 3: Chris Jones, Rankins or my favorite: Reed.

Who does McC pick at 21?

Everbody opinion is welcomed.

Im thinking it one of these 3: Chris Jones, Rankins or my favorite: Reed.

Eli Apple