Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)

Neither did RGIII.

2012 NFL Mock Draft: Rams, Redskins Trade Shakes Up First Round | Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1098467-2012-nfl-mock-draft-rams-redskins-trade-shakes-up-first-round)

Neither did RGIII.Not this illiterate crap again.

We traded 3 1st rounders and a 2nd rounder for the Rams 1st round pick.

We used the Rams 1st rd pick on RG3.

Therefore the RG3 pick cost us our 3 1st rounders and our 2nd rounder.

Pick tracking for dummies:

Our 3 1sts 1 2d = Rams 1st = RG3.


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Put another way, if RG3 didn't cost us 3 1st rounders and a 2nd rounder, then please explain who else we drafted with these picks:

1st rd 2012 (#6 overall)

2nd rd 2012 (#39 overall)

1st rd 2013 (#22 overall)

1st rd 2014 (#2 ! overall)

Hint: We got just one guy out of these picks, RG3. If you disagree, name the other players we drafted with any of these picks.

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Just in case anyone still doesn't get it:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CO9DDTgWwAEhUjE.jpg

Not this illiterate crap again.

We traded 3 1st rounders and a 2nd rounder for the Rams 1st round pick.

We used the Rams 1st rd pick on RG3.

Therefore the RG3 pick cost us our 3 1st rounders and our 2nd rounder.

Pick tracking for dummies:

Our 3 1sts 1 2d = Rams 1st = RG3.


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Put another way, if RG3 didn't cost us 3 1st rounders and a 2nd rounder, then please explain who else we drafted with these picks:

1st rd 2012 (#6 overall)

2nd rd 2012 (#39 overall)

1st rd 2013 (#22 overall)

1st rd 2014 (#2 ! overall)

Hint: We got just one guy out of these picks, RG3. If you disagree, name the other players we drafted with any of these picks.

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Just in case anyone still doesn't get it:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CO9DDTgWwAEhUjE.jpg



I'll sum it up for everyone once and for all in regards to the impact of the rg3 trade:

Redskins: NFC east championships 2012, 2015. Considered contenders for 2016 season

Rams: 3rd place or last place in the nfc west each season. At the end of the 2015 season was told by their own city, you're a steaming pile of shit, get the fuck out of St. Louis.

So that's who won the fucking trade if anyone wants to ask going forward

I'll sum it up for everyone once and for all in regards to the impact of the rg3 trade:

Redskins: NFC east championships 2012, 2015. Considered contenders for 2016 season

Rams: 3rd place or last place in the nfc west each season. At the end of the 2015 season was told by their own city, you're a steaming pile of shit, get the fuck out of St. Louis.

So that's who won the fucking trade if anyone wants to ask going forwardOne could argue everything but 2012 was in spite of the RG3 trade. But I refer you to an earlier post of mine.

Well, we had 2012. The Rams haven't even sniffed success since the trade. Though I guess one could argue we would have been better off last year if we had not done the trade....

I just wish people would stop kidding themselves about the actual trade. Getting RG3 cost us 3 1st-rd and 1-2nd picks. End of story.

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The question is how do you think we go about addressing these problems? Which units/personnel do you think are key to solving the problems?

For me I think the quickest way to improve run d is to get better at ILB. And turnovers will improve with better secondary in addition to upgrade at ILB.

I'm not too concerned about the run game though, I think there will always be limits to the quality of the run game in Jays scheme.

For stopping the run, I'd focus on 3 spots...

1) ILB- I'd want someone who's quick & can get off blocks to make a play.
2) NT -I want someone strong, but in shape.
3) SS- big & quick fits the bill for me....a mini linebacker type.
The key for me would be to find more athletic folks at those 3 positions.

To jump start the run, I'd focus on 3 spots...
1) Center - a road grader type
2) RB -someone who can hammer & protect the ball
3) Blocking TE - I'd be looking for quick feet, someone who could motion and change direction quickly

Give me all that & I think it would lead to 2 more wins next year.

I'll sum it up for everyone once and for all in regards to the impact of the rg3 trade:

Redskins: NFC east championships 2012, 2015. Considered contenders for 2016 season

Rams: 3rd place or last place in the nfc west each season. At the end of the 2015 season was told by their own city, you're a steaming pile of shit, get the fuck out of St. Louis.

So that's who won the fucking trade if anyone wants to ask going forward

Perfecto Chico!!! :food-smil

it's 2016 and we're talking about the rgiii trade? come on guys. it's over. lesson learned. never trade that many picks for a single player. something about eggs and baskets...

it's 2016 and we're talking about the rgiii trade? come on guys. it's over. lesson learned. never trade that many picks for a single player. something about eggs and baskets...

Basically, absolutely sick of hearing about this shit.

For stopping the run, I'd focus on 3 spots...

1) ILB- I'd want someone who's quick & can get off blocks to make a play.
2) NT -I want someone strong, but in shape.
3) SS- big & quick fits the bill for me....a mini linebacker type.
The key for me would be to find more athletic folks at those 3 positions.There's gonna be some ILB available through the draft and through FA. Anyone in particular stand out to you? I like Reggie Ragland, Scooby Wright and some other later round down hill thumper types.

For the run defense I'm content with our DL. So I would re-sign Knighton or upgrade via FA in addition to adding youth via the draft.

SS--I fine with Jarrett/Duke but would always be in favor of adding talent via the draft.

To jump start the run, I'd focus on 3 spots...
1) Center - a road grader type
2) RB -someone who can hammer & protect the ball
3) Blocking TE - I'd be looking for quick feet, someone who could motion and change direction quickly

Give me all that & I think it would lead to 2 more wins next year.I don't expect them to be able to address all the issues in 1 offseason. And I don't really expect the run game to become a strength in Jay's scheme so its hard for me to see them allocating top resources to the run game. But I would expect them to draft a center/RB/TE 4th round and down.

There's gonna be some ILB available through the draft and through FA. Anyone in particular stand out to you? I like Reggie Ragland, Scooby Wright and some other later round down hill thumper types.

For the run defense I'm content with our DL. So I would re-sign Knighton or upgrade via FA in addition to adding youth via the draft.

SS--I fine with Jarrett/Duke but would always be in favor of adding talent via the draft.

I don't expect them to be able to address all the issues in 1 offseason. And I don't really expect the run game to become a strength in Jay's scheme so its hard for me to see them allocating top resources to the run game. But I would expect them to draft a center/RB/TE 4th round and down.

to be honest, adding athleticism to just 6 positions should be possible in just one off season, considering none of the positions we're talking about was even close to Pro Bowl level. I'm just looking for improved play, which I think is definitely do-able.

I'm not as close to the draft as you, especially for the later round guys.

But, I know Scott McL & staff are, so I trust that they can improve the positions. We had an ILB(or two) go to IR, so maybe they can come back & be better.

I do think DT, C, & RB upgrades can be found in the draft, if the cards fall the right way.

As far as jarret goes, I like him alot...very versatile. Just not sure he can be a big hitter and stay healthy, but time will tell on that. The 1st year is always tough to judge.