Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)

I don't share Tandler's views on defensive needs at all. I don't know what Scot will do about the defense but I think he'll give it a lot of attention this off-season.

is this a troll?

BS!! . . . was a hell of a lot better than Shanny or Cerato drafts . . . getting a stud CB, a starting C/G, and two long term backups is a pretty good draft, especially for not having a first round pick

If all you see are the 2 starters, and miss the rest of the mistakes, then whatever.

Pretty solid draft if you ask me. Am I missing something?

we got good value from our 3rd and 4th round pick, everyone else's contribution was either at or below their slot.

having that kind of draft every year would be good if you were 4-12 and looking to go 8-8. which i guess we were, but you actually need to do quite a bit better than 2 new starters a year from the draft/udfas to get ahead.

solid draft

Bruce Allen did very well when he was in charge of the draft.

ROUND (PICK) PLAYER SCHOOL
2 (47) LB Trent Murphy Stanford
3 (66) — From Dallas OT Morgan Moses Virginia
3 (78) — From Dallas G Spencer Long Nebraska
4 (102) CB Bashaud Breeland Clemson
5 (142) WR Ryan Grant Tulane
6 (186) — From Tennessee RB Lache Seastrunk Baylor
7 (217) TE Ted Bolser Indiana
7 (228) — From Tennessee K Zach Hocker Arkansas

It didn't look too good last year but Breeland and Moses both emerged to salvage it. For not having a 1st rounder, we did pretty good here. Everyone should keep in mind the missing 1st rounder from this draft class that was traded for Griffin, remember that 1st rounders are your best shot at landing a starter.

So if you're grading on the execution of the picks that were available, it came out pretty solid.

I think time will show that McC got more out of last year's class than Allen got out of this one. But Moses and Breeland play important positions and are definitely + players for us.

And remember, that was the year Allen was subscribing to McC's scouting service. He may have been the birdie whispering in his ear that Breeland and Moses were good targets.

Jaime dukes just said "the panthers will have to deal with seattle, arz, dallas, gb"... and when asked about washington he laughed... ha yeah coming from a bum that never won anything

And remember, that was the year Allen was subscribing to McC's scouting service. He may have been the birdie whispering in his ear that Breeland and Moses were good targets.

it could be . . . though it was the only draft he ran . . . so not bad!!

it could be . . . though it was the only draft he ran . . . so not bad!!

I agree. 3 starters, 1 backup o-lineman, and a backup wr/st player.