Theismann Elicits Strong Emotions

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celts32
05-27-2005, 11:54 AM
I love Joey T. My favorite player ever.

SkinsRock
05-27-2005, 12:27 PM
Darrell Green not making the HoF is absolutely absurd. He was considered at least one of, if not the best CB in the game for years, went to 7 pro bowls (I think), and was always the consumate professional. He defined the term "shut-down corner" before Sanders even came along. I'll be surprised if he doesn't get voted in his first year eligible. I don't know what Joe T. was smoking before that interview. :Smoker:

I like what he said about the Skins chances this year. I think all of us were surprised at how "rusty" Gibbs was last year, but this year he will be on a mission to prove himself.

Schneed10
05-27-2005, 12:42 PM
One of Peter King's biggest knocks on Art Monk is that he was only voted to the Pro Bowl 3 times. King acknowledges that Monk was very good, but he points out that Monk was only considered, via his pro-bowl selections, a top 4 WR in the NFC in 3 years of his 15-year career, in '84, '85, and '86. He played for 9 seasons after that and never went to the Pro Bowl.

Darrell Green was voted to the Pro Bowl 7 times in his 20-year career, and those times spanned his entire career. He went in '84, '86, '87, '90, '91, '96, and '97. That shows he was considered a top flight CB at various points ALL THROUGHOUT his career. So King can't go making the same argument he made about Monk, because Green was voted to the Pro Bowl a lot more than Art.

I think Darrell will get in, though I'm going to drop a note in Peter King's mailbag to see if he'll address Green's chances in his next column. I suggest you guys do the same.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/peter_king/05/24/mmqbte/1.html

skinsguy
05-27-2005, 02:08 PM
Haha...maybe Joey T. realized that the 'Skins are going to get snuffed out of the HOF anyways so he changed his answer....lol

FRPLG
05-27-2005, 04:18 PM
Green should be a first ballot HOF. Who else will be a first year eligible that year? My guess is he'll be the most deserving of the candiates. I would be stunned and truly disappointed if he didn't make the HOF. That would be a travesty. On top of being a top tier CB for basically his entire career (he was probably in the top three every year until 98 or so) he is responsible for one the greatest moments in football history. When he ran down Dorsett from accross the field on Monday night he made a name for himself. That type of exposure goes a long way in the HOF voting. He was also a decent interview (at least better than Monk) so they won't be able to argue that he wasn't media friendly.

GoSkins!
05-28-2005, 12:14 AM
If Green would come back now, I'd still want him. The guy defined what it is to be a Redskin. It's not just his outstanding play that deserves to be in the Hall, but also the man that wore the uniform for 2 decades. Class act.

Darrell, you have my vote!!!!!!

VTSkins897
05-28-2005, 12:59 AM
i heard that same radio broadcast when i was on the road. i think he mentioned at the end that russ grimm and maybe another of the hogs should get conisderation. russ grimm over DG? i dont know. maybe he just didnt want to seem too biased considering he played in washington.

celts32
05-28-2005, 01:49 AM
Russ Grimm & Joe Jacoby will both be in some day. The O-line is the most respected group league wide from the skins title teams so they will eventually get represented.

monk81
05-30-2005, 08:00 PM
In 1983 I went to Texas Stadium to see the Redskins play the 'boys in the famous game when the cry-baby cowboys tried to break up the fun bunch in the end zone after a score. Anyway, I stayed at the same hotel as the Redskins and they had a fan appreciation in the lobby. My favorite player back then was Charlie Brown #87. I saw him in the lobby and asked for his autograph. He turned his back on me and when I asked him again, he very sharply said, "Don't bother me, I'm talkin' to my people".
I was crushed. (I was 16 yrs old).. Theismann saw this exchange from accross the lobby and came up to me, introduced himself, introduced me to Dave Butz, Dexter Manley, Art Monk, Don Warren, Joe Jacoby and John Riggins. He arranged for a picture (which I still have) and they all signed it. Needless to say, Joey T. is a class act who cared about the fans and had a tremendous love of the game and will always be my favorite player. BTW...what ever happened to Charlie Brown??? hee hee hee.

Great story dblanch66.....and what a picture you have to cherish. Joey T has always been nice to the fans.

monk81
05-30-2005, 08:06 PM
This doesn't have much to do with the topic at hand, but does involve Theisman. A couple weeks ago, he was on the SportsBash with Erik Kuselias discussing the HOF induction process. They were talking about how its aweful that #81 hasn't been inducted and how Peter King is basically the gate keeper and is the one keeping him out of the hall. Kuselias then asked for a yes or no (whether Joe thinks they deserve to be in the HOF) for a list of names. Erik read them right after another and their was no discussion, just a yes or no answer. Darrell Green's name was read and Theisman initially said yes. Then he back tracked and said, 'oh, you said darrell green. no.'. I was kind of suprised by this. I admit that Darrell is right on the borderline, but was surprised to hear Theisman, who was a team mate during some of Darrell's best years, say no.

As you can see by my moniker I am an Art Monk fan he's not an egotistical loudmouth and did his NFL job with class and dignity and with his records he deserves to be in the Hall Of Fame!!! I guess he's not "splashy" enough for the voters. But why is Peter King the gate keeper????????? Curious wonder why Joe said no to Darrell or was he talking about getting into the HOF on a first round ballot maybe?????????? Playing until age 42 deserves to be in the hall!!!...........

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