Domestic terrorism

France has a terrorist attack and they killed how many(130)? and what are their laws?

We have one that kills 14, and our gun laws are to blame?

Evil people wanting to do evil things will do them with pipe bombs, ied's, or planes.

We should be giving due recognition to the systems we have in place that repeatedly minimize the damage these types of evil acts attempt to inflict, instead of going for the happy happy joy joy solutions that far too often actually beget bad laws.

Europe has twice the population as the U.S. but not nearly the gun violence, although the Scandinavian countries and Switzerland have higher per capita deaths by gun violence. To be honest we don't know the full extent of gun violence in the U.S. since the CDC stopped tracking the impacts and rates in 1996. We basically have two groups pro gun control and anti gun control that are trying to make points without any credible data.

Wow.......

The Facts That Neither Side Wants To Admit About Gun Control (http://www.mintpressnews.com/the-facts-that-neither-side-wants-to-admit-about-gun-control/207152/)

Oh wow!! The Mint News Press that is some well respected writing right there. You basically threw out a couple hundred word opinion piece, that doesn't site any sources on his made up "facts". All wrapped up and put of a right wing conspiracy site. BTW love this article here (http://www.mintpressnews.com/trump-says-he-saw-muslims-celebrating-on-911-but-he-was-wrong-it-was-israeli-mossad-agents/211748/). It says Trump was right. People were dancing in the streets during 9/11, only it was Mossad Agents. Seems legit.

Islamic terrorist

This bullshit isn't about gun control

Why would a wife drop off her own 6 mo old baby to help rectify a workplace grievance?

Wake the fuck up folk...can't bye what this president is trying to sell you. He is trying to cover his ass on the poor ass job he is doing.

I think we have plenty of Christian terrorists (Planned Parenthood shootings) and heavily armed nuts (Sandy Hook, Aurora, etc., etc.) that cause plenty of terror in this country.

So that nut was a Christian? Some part of a radical Christian group? Yeah that's not true or no investigation has proven it. That sounds like" well he is white and anti arbortion so he must be Christian" this logic doesn't make sense....

christian terrorists? Yeah, this is a well known terror movement or something I haven't heard about...I'm lost on your statement.

White folks who maybe anti abortion, anti government, or flat out racist like the kid in charleston doesn't mean they are some sort of violent pro-Christian movement.

Oh wow!! The Mint News Press that is some well respected writing right there. You basically threw out a couple hundred word opinion piece, that doesn't site any sources on his made up "facts". All wrapped up and put of a right wing conspiracy site. BTW love this article here (http://www.mintpressnews.com/trump-says-he-saw-muslims-celebrating-on-911-but-he-was-wrong-it-was-israeli-mossad-agents/211748/). It says Trump was right. People were dancing in the streets during 9/11, only it was Mossad Agents. Seems legit.

I don't think your going to be able to have this conversation.....

This is not a comment on gun control which I think is such a hairy subject that we may never solve in this country but...

Guns don't cause this stuff to happen. Guns are the tool not the cause. Instead of both sides using this tragedy as a reason to bolster their case we need to focus on WHY THIS CRAP HAPPENS. I've never seen a real discussion led by adults on how to stop this stuff. It strikes me that simply getting rid a every gun (a complete impossibility anyways) is like cutting off your nose to cure congestion. We need to treat the causes not the symptoms.

Why would a wife drop off her own 6 mo old baby to help rectify a workplace grievance?

Wake the fuck up folk...can't bye what this president is trying to sell you. He is trying to cover his ass on the poor ass job he is doing.

I think you can lump every leader in the developed world in together, until the Paris attack security agencies through Europe, North America and Japan did not consider ISIS as a valid terror threat.

This is not a comment on gun control which I think is such a hairy subject that we may never solve in this country but...

Guns don't cause this stuff to happen. Guns are the tool not the cause. Instead of both sides using this tragedy as a reason to bolster their case we need to focus on WHY THIS CRAP HAPPENS. I've never seen a real discussion led by adults on how to stop this stuff. It strikes me that simply getting rid a every gun (a complete impossibility anyways) is like cutting off your nose to cure congestion. We need to treat the causes not the symptoms.

Oh you! Stop making sense. There is NO place for it in this thread. Please speak only in absolutes and hyperbole.

I think you can lump every leader in the developed world in together, until the Paris attack security agencies through Europe, North America and Japan did not consider ISIS as a valid terror threat.

Oh...so ignorance is an acceptable excuse?

psshhh jeez. wake up