Domestic terrorism

Obama: US safe against ISIS attack - CNNPolitics.com (http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/03/politics/barack-obama-isis/index.html)

oh realllllly

I agree...its a fact. I don't understand how someone can be on the no fly list, but able to purchase a gun. How is that? Your a threat enough to fly...

We also have significant discrepancies on who states choose to sell to. An individual whose committed a violent or gun related misdemeanor might be banned from owning a gun in FL but they can go to GA or AL and pick one up no problem. Only 33 states restrict gun ownership based on mental illness. In Vermont one can have committed a felony and still purchase a gun.

San Bernardino shooting: Gunman appears radicalized - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/03/us/san-bernardino-shooting/index.html)


Syed Rizwan Farook -- who along with his wife, Tashfeen Malik, carried out the San Bernardino shooting massacre -- apparently was radicalized and in touch with people being investigated by the FBI for international terrorism, law enforcement officials said Thursday.

Farook's apparent radicalization contributed to his role in the mass shooting of 14 people Wednesday during a holiday party for the San Bernardino County health department, where Farook worked, sources said.

Still, it wasn't necessarily the only driver behind the carnage, as workplace grievances may have also played a role. President Barack Obama hinted as much Thursday when he said that the attackers may have had "mixed motives."

David Bowditch, assistant director in charge of the FBI's Los Angeles office, told reporters Thursday that Farook had traveled to Pakistan.

And two government officials said no red flags were raised when he'd gone to Saudi Arabia for several weeks in 2013 on the Hajj, the annual pilgrimage to Mecca that Muslims are required to take at least once in their lifetime. It was during this trip that he met Malik, a native of Pakistan who came to the United States in July 2014 on a "fiancée visa" and later became a lawful permanent resident.

Officials had previously said neither Farook and Malik were known to the FBI or on a list of potentially radicalized people. Nor had they had any known interactions with police until Wednesday.

Yet Farook himself had talked by phone and on social media with more than one person being investigated for terrorism, law enforcement officials said.

The communications were "soft connections" in that they weren't frequent, one law enforcement official said. It had been a few months since Farook's last back-and-forth with these people, who officials said were not considered high priority.


Interesting, CNN spinning the contact with terrorist as "soft contact" and "work grievances" as split motives. We are good with soft contact with terrorists?

pay attention folks...media/government are making excuses all ready.

Were the same excuses made the nutcase in Colorado?

So workplace violence and gun laws will be the excuses and not Muslim terrorist?

You know, we need to probably arrest someone at the office for being too mean to this guy...

Ok I'll take the hit .Fuck the NRA!!! Look I'm not some anti gun nut ,I don't want "all guns banned" and yes we need to enforce laws that are all ready on the books but it's the NRA back rooming and getting people all worked up about the second amendment .Yes I know guns don't kill people ....fuck that shit and come up with an answer ,we have 5% of the worlds population and 80% of it's guns.Again I get it it's a sport to some of you fine and I understand hunters but this has got to stop there is still no reason why we can't treat them like cars , register all guns, make gun owners carry insurance and all gun owners have to have a "License" to carry a gun and no one under the age of 10 is allowed anywhere near a gun.The answer isn't more guns there are plenty of fucking guns
Now notice I have not said bann anything ,I have not said anyone can't have a gun but I think gun owners now need to step it up and arming everyone isn't the answer unless you can guarantee the mental health of everyone with a gun.Remember these people who did this shit yesterday they planned for it the little shit who shot up Sandy Hook in Conn he planned it,the kids at Columbine ...same thing. It's time for Gun owners and the NRA to come up with a plan ,a real one.:mad::rant::soapbox: (sorry)


US has high rate of mass shootings because of 'the dark side of exceptionalism' | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3212226/America-highest-rate-mass-shootings-world-dark-exceptionalism.html)


Why America's Mass Shootings Can't Be Labeled A Mental Health Issue (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-danger-of-labeling-gun-violence-a-mental-health-issue_560eb88ee4b076812701c2c9)


Staggering Stats: There Have Been More Mass Shootings Than Days This Year - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/san-bernardino-shooting/staggering-stats-there-have-been-more-mass-shootings-days-year-n473436)

Not really sure why some are so intent on rushing to judgment in this thread as to the motivation. Just let the investigation run its course and let all the facts come out.


Ok , what will it take for you to rush to judgement a A bomb in your back yard ???

Some of you are a little to.......hysterical to have a rational discussion at this time

this times 1000.

Obama: US safe against ISIS attack - CNNPolitics.com (http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/03/politics/barack-obama-isis/index.html)

oh realllllly

Unfortunately, the US is not safe against mass shooting. We can't have a grown up conversation about gun control because some people pay a lot of money to keep their toys.

ISIS doesn't need to attack the US, our stupid gun-totting population is already doing the job for them.

France has a terrorist attack and they killed how many(130)? and what are their laws?

We have one that kills 14, and our gun laws are to blame?

Evil people wanting to do evil things will do them with pipe bombs, ied's, or planes.

We should be giving due recognition to the systems we have in place that repeatedly minimize the damage these types of evil acts attempt to inflict, instead of going for the happy happy joy joy solutions that far too often actually beget bad laws.

Not really sure why some are so intent on rushing to judgment in this thread as to the motivation. Just let the investigation run its course and let all the facts come out.

How dare you try to confuse the issue with facts!

Unfortunately, the US is not safe against mass shooting. We can't have a grown up conversation about gun control because some people pay a lot of money to keep their toys.

ISIS doesn't need to attack the US, our stupid gun-totting population is already doing the job for them.

Or using Pressure Cookers like the Muslim boston bombers from Dagastan.

Are you saying ISIS needs to save their plane money and let our own Islamic terrorists kill us?