Domestic terrorism

Right. For me, it's definitely two issues.

The hardest question is the "why?" and how do you fix that?

I just think some very simple things could be done to lessen gun violence. My frustration is that there's such giant opposition. I'm not talking about some huge revamp. Talking about VERY simple things that just make sense, yet somehow we can't get this passed.

Right. For me, it's definitely two issues.

The hardest question is the "why?" and how do you fix that?

I just think some very simple things could be done to lessen gun violence. My frustration is that there's such giant opposition. I'm not talking about some huge revamp. Talking about VERY simple things that just make sense, yet somehow we can't get this passed.

The toughest thing is effectively defining mental illness...medications are prescribed for everything...lotta medicated folks. Do we really want a database of this?...Seems too intrusive. I don't think the governments belongs in mine, yours, and family medical records and then determining constitutional rights...

I think if your on the terrorist watchlist...its simple...you cant posses or buy a weapon. Sorry.

The database would definitely be one of the NON-simple solutions. :)

While I think you could pare that down to certain red flags, I also don't want the government up in my records.

The database would definitely be one of the NON-simple solutions. :)

While I think you could pare that down to certain red flags, I also don't want the government up in my records.

People do not trust the Fed...imagine that.
And we no longer are a people of common sense. We're to occupied with who can use......Dick/No Dick bathrooms to actually embrace actions other than to bamboozle and betray the voters.....

Without diving into the whole mess, I hate the argument "if it even saved 1 ... " It's a terrible and imo evil way of defining solution sets.

It's terrible because a multitude of bad laws have been and will forever be written using the if it even saved 1 train of thought. How about we write a law that every car must stop for any pedestrian crossing the road. How many lives would be saved, certainly at least one somewhere, but it's a terrible law because no appropriately cautious drivers would ever get where they were going, so most likely it would lead to super cautious drivers who gave every pedestrian a 5 foot berth and crazy whacked out drivers who ignore the law and put more people at risk.

It's evil because many (I would say most, but not all) the people who use that line of argument have a hidden agenda that they hide by making ridiculous heroisms like "if it saves 1 life I would give up my life savings for ever", "if it saves 1 child, it will be worth giving our government all their private information", ... the list goes on and on, and those who would seek to usurp the freedoms enshrined in the declaration of independence and the Constitution will forever beat the "if it saves one life " drum.

That's my opinion at least.

Nevermind. This is taking a single comment and taking it into something I had no intention of doing. My comments are topical only. I have no agenda. If by that logic the bans caused more deaths I obviously would agree. Again, what is the valid argument in just trying it? I have yet to hear a rational reason.

Nevermind. This is taking a single comment and taking it into something I had no intention of doing. My comments are topical only. I have no agenda. If by that logic the bans caused more deaths I obviously would agree. Again, what is the valid argument in just trying it? I have yet to hear a rational reason.

The main reason that I know of is simply that once a law is on the books, it tends to grow tentacles. You could put a law on the books, and inevitably, if it fails to produce results the rationale will most likely be that it just needed one more tweak, one more adjustment, not that it was a failed experiment and let's remove it.

for the record, I didn't think you were using the "if it saves 1 life" mantra the way I wrote, but I do think that people with very bad intentions often get a lot of traction with good minded folk using that logic.

https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2016/06/12/orlando-night-club-attack-by-known-wolf-terrorist-previously-investigated-by-fbi/

Interesting philosophy.....

The toughest thing is effectively defining mental illness...medications are prescribed for everything...lotta medicated folks. Do we really want a database of this?...Seems too intrusive. I don't think the governments belongs in mine, yours, and family medical records and then determining constitutional rights...

I think if your on the terrorist watchlist...its simple...you cant posses or buy a weapon. Sorry.


How would that have stop Sandy Hook or any school shooting for that matter ?Chico you can't scream every time one of these mass shootings goes down blame Obama and then turn down any or all suggestions to prevent them from happening again.Somewhere someone's personal freedom's are going to be infringed upon to help end these killings the question is how do we the people control it?

How would that have stop Sandy Hook or any school shooting for that matter ?Chico you can't scream every time one of these mass shootings goes down blame Obama and then turn down any or all suggestions to prevent them from happening again.Somewhere someone's personal freedom's are going to be infringed upon to help end these killings the question is how do we the people control it?

Dude I'm screaming because this was the worst terrorist attack since 9/11 and another one in a long series committed by Isis. I guess no one saw Isis committed another attack in France yesterday as well. This one claims he was directed by Isis and killed while on facebook streaming live.

I really don't think the media covers the Isis crisis enough and i don't think the American people understand how serious and deadly this group is...just last week cnn had an article up and I'm paraphrasing : "just how much of a threat is Isis?" just another liberal garbage article. Now we see just how much this threat is.

Sandy hook/ Newton was incomprehensible...its a story about a terribly neglected kid by his own parents. They were fucking horrible people.