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53Fan
11-23-2015, 10:44 AM
That officiating crew needs to be fired. Those morons actually talked it over and still called unnecessary roughness on Culliver??? They should return their paychecks for that POS performance.

Coff
11-23-2015, 11:14 AM
I heard an interview with Clinton Portis last week in which he commented that rushers like Morris need to get in a bunch of reps before they start finding their groove. I'd like to see them commit to Morris and keep Jones on the bench. Morris has great for us for three years, Jones likes to cough up the ball. Why did Morris get two carries yesterday??

over the mountain
11-23-2015, 11:32 AM
Jim Zorn was 2-of-17 for 25 yards, completing both passes to Steve Largent. Sherman Smith ran the ball seven times for 16 yards, and there were five other runs that totaled seven more yards. Had that been the end of it, the Seahawks would have gained 48 yards against the Rams, which would be good for the 16th-worst total in NFL history.

But that wasn't the end of it.

Though they didn't keep individual sack numbers at the time, Zorn was credited as going down six times (I've seen different totals for this, going as high as eight) and losing 55 yards. The Seahawks total offense that day was -7 yards, the worst performance that the league has ever seen. They gained one first down all game long and never made it past their own 42 yard line.

Minus 7 yards: The Seahawks and the worst offensive performance in NFL history - Field Gulls (http://www.fieldgulls.com/2013/9/17/4738146/seahawks-worst-nfl-game-rams-1979)



We ran for 14 yards total, lost 35 yds on 5 sacks = -21 yds rushing

Redskins vs. Panthers - Team Statistics - November 22, 2015 - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/matchup?gameId=400791707)

This is getting statistically impossible for our running game to be this bad. Has any team ever rushed for negative rushing yards wout considering yds lost for sacks?
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coff - morris sd he had a rib injury, he had hurt it previously and sd something like "it just popped out today" and he popped it back in. ive never heard of a rib "popping out" unless its a fractured rib but hes a tough dude.

SmootSmack
11-23-2015, 11:37 AM
I heard an interview with Clinton Portis last week in which he commented that rushers like Morris need to get in a bunch of reps before they start finding their groove. I'd like to see them commit to Morris and keep Jones on the bench. Morris has great for us for three years, Jones likes to cough up the ball. Why did Morris get two carries yesterday??

He got hurt

Schneed10
11-23-2015, 11:53 AM
Poor tackling and undisciplined penalties definitely land square in the laps of the coaches.

I think we've got a pretty average coaching staff. Give them elite talent and they'll get outsmarted in the playoffs by the best coaches.

Jay knows how to scheme an offense and keep the chains moving. But the staff doesn't keep the team disciplined enough to avoid penalties. Players stop pursuing plays when they think their teammate has made a tackle, there's no discipline there.

Gregg Williams made sure there were always 6 Redskins meeting at the ball carrier. That's not happening here. I'm definitely not satisfied with the coaching staff.

artmonkforhallofamein07
11-23-2015, 12:09 PM
Horrible, horrible penalty.

Two penalties that stick out the most that would have changed the momentum of the game.

The culliver one

Then the next drive (after three bad calls in the end zone including not getting the call against cocthery when he tried to catch a ball after stepping out of the back of the endzone)

The holding call on Reed the next series.

NoCalHail
11-23-2015, 12:10 PM
With a half a day to digest the game there's no reason to say the officiating "cost the game" but I do think with a good certainty that they definitely had a big part in swinging momentum at 3 specific points in the game on very sketchy borderline calls.

Call #1 - The Culliver call. This is the most obvious one, it takes points off the board. It was a big physical play that had the potential to turn the game in our favor or at least put the Panthers in a different position for the first time in the game. If they are calling THAT unnecessary roughness then how on earth did they not call the helmet to helmet hit on Reed on our series before? The defender dove into Reed helmet first and speared him and there was no call.

Call #2 On that Panthers drive that continued because of Call #1 (I believe it was that drive) Panthers were 2nd and goal and the pass is incomplete, setting up a 3rd and goal....oh except they call illegal contact on another very weak justification. This gives the Panthers 1st and goal and they end up with a TD. I'd say this one was more of a "who knows what would have happened" type call because the Panthers did still have 3rd down to score, but if our defense holds and they kick a FG it is a big deal for the defense.

Call #3 - another obvious one, the phantom "hold" by Reed on Cousins's scramble to the 4 yard line to setup 1st and goal. I'm sorry by Reed's arms weren't extended and when you are body to body you can have the jersey in the shoulder pad area. Just another razor thin call that takes away a huge play. 1st and goal, could cut the game to 21-28 going into half time.

Like I said, we don't win the game merely because these calls don't happen, but it really seemed like the team was dejected after this series of events as the game went from competitive to a laugher within half a quarter of play.

skinsfan69
11-23-2015, 12:14 PM
We can complain about the coaches and all that, but we're still playing for first place at home against the Giants next week. I'd bury this one right away and move on. We suck on the road. It is what it is. We'll see what everyone is made of, not only against the Giants, but the Cowboys as well. If we can go 2-0, then we're 6-6 and in the drivers seat.

Bottom line, we are still need 2-3 solid drafts, as well as a couple good FA signings. We need several more guys that can block, tackle, cover and rush the passer.

NoCalHail
11-23-2015, 12:24 PM
We can complain about the coaches and all that, but we're still playing for first place at home against the Giants next week. I'd bury this one right away and move on. We suck on the road. It is what it is. We'll see what everyone is made of, not only against the Giants, but the Cowboys as well. If we can go 2-0, then we're 6-6 and in the drivers seat.

Bottom line, we are still need 2-3 solid drafts, as well as a couple good FA signings. We need several more guys that can block, tackle, cover and rush the passer.


As long as the team does that. We are fans, we still get a day to bitch and moan. Hahaha

53Fan
11-23-2015, 12:35 PM
Redskins: DeSean Jackson, Chris Culliver weigh in on 'the call' (http://was.247sports.com/Bolt/Redskins-DeSean-Jackson-Chris-Culliver-weigh-in-on-the-call-41325139)

I wouldn't go so far as to say the team quit. I'm sure it took a lot of air out of their sails...how could it not? That INT and return for a TD was HUGE for us. To have it taken away definitely had an impact and I think before some of the guys got over the disbelief of such an incredibly inept, totally ridiculous call of such magnitude, things snowballed in a hurry. The Panthers took advantage of our obvious lack of focus at that point and we got steamrolled. Once a play is over its over. Hard as it may be, forget it and keep ballin'. It ain't coming back.

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