Democratic debates

Higher taxes.....better
Give me what I need...
Fed knows better...sure man...lol

again, 1950s, tiered taxes extended to something like 95%, 1970s, highest rates were still 70%. because american were all obviously commies during the red scare.

1970s economy, good times right?

The Reagan and Clinton economic policies transitioned our economy and globalization changed everything. Vastly different.



The trump and Bernie support is really good for our political process. Fringe candidates really showing the anger with both parties and the political process in general. We do need change.

I really admire Bernie not taking special interest money and trump self financing. Keeping special interest out of the process should be a reform us as Americans should embrace

you guys make me laugh with all of this " bernie is raising taxes" talk. can you name 1 POTUS that hasnt raised taxes?

1970s economy, good times right?

The Reagan and Clinton economic policies transitioned our economy and globalization changed everything. Vastly different.



The trump and Bernie support is really good for our political process. Fringe candidates really showing the anger with both parties and the political process in general. We do need change.

I really admire Bernie not taking special interest money and trump self financing. Keeping special interest out of the process should be a reform us as Americans should embrace

i'm just saying that raising taxes isn't a 100% socialist endeavor. reagan raised taxes 11 times (though in total the cuts exceeded the raises). reagan also absolutely ballooned the debt and was never able to get it back under control, which is what all those raises were basically trying to do. bush sr also raised taxes. i just don't get this world view where any kind of tax increase is some kind communist experiment.

why not look at the proposal and judge it on it's merits instead... you know, be rational and all that. i guess because that's too much effort (i'm not talking about you chico).

not shilling for bernie, i haven't read his plan yet, but let's retire the tired hyperbolic one liners, please.

When it comes down to tax talk, why cant tackle major reforms across the board? Individual payer and corporate?

We need major reforms which streamlines the processes, does away with antiquated brackets, etc.

As someone who has to look at people's taxes at their job usually once or twice a week, its really a joke. The "lying ratio" is quite high...and it doesn't discriminate..young, old, and up and down the income line. Shocker: the system allows the biggest cheats to be the folks actually taking home the most money.

When it comes down to tax talk, why cant tackle major reforms across the board? Individual payer and corporate?

We need major reforms which streamlines the processes, does away with antiquated brackets, etc.

As someone who has to look at people's taxes at their job usually once or twice a week, its really a joke. The "lying ratio" is quite high...and it doesn't discriminate..young, old, and up and down the income line. Shocker: the system allows the biggest cheats to be the folks actually taking home the most money.
Reform? Is that a cleverly veiled term for raising taxes?
You cannot seriously be.........suggesting fixing something?

One of the biggest reasons I hear people say they don't like Bernie is because his plans are too costly and there's no way they will work. I'll be the first to admit he's got my vote, but it's not because I believe he will be able to implement things like free college and healthcare (although as part of my dream scenario, he would be able to set restrictions on for-profit medical companies and regulate healthcare, so people don't go bankrupt for life if they have an accident without insurance).

My reasons for Bernie having my vote are as follows:

1. Honesty - I'm not trying to spend too much time on this (which is my way of saying if you want sources you can do that), but it is widely known Bernie doesn't take money from corporations, and his campaign is almost entirely funded by small donations. He's not getting insanely high speaking fees from companies with vested interests in maintaining the status quo like Hillary is.

2. Consistency: He's been on the right side of history for years, whether it's the civil rights movement, trumpeting gay rights in the 80's, etc.

3. His goals align with mine (campaign finance reform, legalizing weed ((I mean seriously this should be a no brainer by now - it weakens cartels, provides additional tax revenue, research has shown it has medical benefits for people like me with epilepsy/ptsd sufferers/a lot of athletes use it to help recover from their injuries, etc.)), making healthcare/college affordable, spending less on wars, gun control to an extent, etc.)

I'll wrap up with this: One of the biggest arguments I hear against Bernie is this: His plans for how to achieve his goals are unrealistic, i.e. free college/healthcare, $15/hr minimum wage, etc. My whole argument against this is, if you are Bernie and you know that if you win most likely you will have to prepare for battle with the right over every issue you try to tackle. For example, if you come out initially and say "I want $15 minimum wage" (which you know will never happen) it might sound unrealistic, but if your goal is to negotiate and end up with something more reasonable (like $12/hr minimum wage), then that approach is perfectly fine with me. In the end if that did happen it'd be win-win, because the left would be able to gloat about raising minimum wage and the right would be able to gloat about how they didn't let the left get their insane $15/hr minimum wage. So while he might come out and say things like "free healthcare/college for everyone" even supporters like me don't expect that to happen. But maybe talks progress, and improvement is made, however slight it might be it's better than the alternative where jack shit happens and nobody is happy.

Legalizing weed is among your top priorities for our country??

What... The actual... Fuck.

............lol

Hillary just isn't a very good candidate. She's a good candidate for 30 years ago when running for president wasn't just a popularity contest based on who seemed the coolest, or gave the best speeches, or could rev up an extreme and vocal element of an ideology. Accomplished politicians inherently suck as candidates now. Hence we have a bunch of what we call "outsiders" running this shit show. Outsider is code for inexperienced and probably unqualified.