Falcons postgame positives and negatives

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punch it in
10-14-2015, 10:52 AM
I can't speak for anyone else. I have given each opponent the the credit I think they deserve. I thought we matched up quite well with all the opponents we've faced thus far. So when some people were throwing their hands up saying we can't beat the Falcons I wasn't one of them. That's not how I view a team. I try to look objectively at each team we face and think about the ways we can come out with a W. And they better have a solid game plan and come to play because its going to tough.



Imo the Jets are the toughest team we've faced thus far; that is not to say I don't think we can win. The 2 thoughts are mutually exclusive.



I know many in this forum have chest puffing disdain for advanced stats but Football Outsider's rates the Jets defense as #2 overall #5 vs the pass and #1 vs the run. And before you excuse away their rankings FBO accounts for the strength of the competition better then raw defense stats like yards allowed or points allowed. Then you look at their personnel and coaching. Both are very good.


Which is why our ST and D have to put us in good field position, force turnovers, and a score would be great. Its how the Eagles beat them. Bradford did not turn it over and Matthews ran for over 100.

Chief X_Phackter
10-14-2015, 05:03 PM
If cousins had more competent, consistent play in both the Miami and Atlanta games they would have been wins. He has been ok, but ok gets u 7-9 and 8-8. I need to see much better play to secure himself as the starter for next year.

I'm ok with "OK" this year. After all I don't think most predictions had this team winning more than 4-5 games. So if they end up with 7-9 wins, that is a success and something to build on.

Every single 'good to great' QB in the history of the game required time to become just that. They needed the opportunity to learn from their mistakes, and patience from everyone around them to allow the whole team to grow together. For some QBs and some teams it happened faster than others...this guy has had a total of five games as the anointed starter, with the benefit of taking all the starter repetitions, working with the 1s, etc.

Whether you choose to see it or not, this team is getting better and is growing together. There's a ton of new faces in the starting lineups - some by design, and some due to multiple injuries to 1st and 2nd stringers. It's a testament to Scot M. for bringing the right guys in, and it's a testament to the coaching staff for putting it all together on Sundays.

While Kirk has been great at times and not so great at times, I believe the team is much better with him behind center, and has a pretty high ceiling. The overall health of the team has been the bigger issue to me, rather than Kirk's inconsistency. I'm not going to predict the playoffs this year, but it's not out of the question given the state of the NFC East. I will say that as of this week there are less than five teams in the entire league that I feel this team cannot beat if they put together their A game.

punch it in
10-14-2015, 06:19 PM
I'm ok with "OK" this year. After all I don't think most predictions had this team winning more than 4-5 games. So if they end up with 7-9 wins, that is a success and something to build on.

Every single 'good to great' QB in the history of the game required time to become just that. They needed the opportunity to learn from their mistakes, and patience from everyone around them to allow the whole team to grow together. For some QBs and some teams it happened faster than others...this guy has had a total of five games as the anointed starter, with the benefit of taking all the starter repetitions, working with the 1s, etc.

Whether you choose to see it or not, this team is getting better and is growing together. There's a ton of new faces in the starting lineups - some by design, and some due to multiple injuries to 1st and 2nd stringers. It's a testament to Scot M. for bringing the right guys in, and it's a testament to the coaching staff for putting it all together on Sundays.

While Kirk has been great at times and not so great at times, I believe the team is much better with him behind center, and has a pretty high ceiling. The overall health of the team has been the bigger issue to me, rather than Kirk's inconsistency. I'm not going to predict the playoffs this year, but it's not out of the question given the state of the NFC East. I will say that as of this week there are less than five teams in the entire league that I feel this team cannot beat if they put together their A game.


Bravo.

Brody81
10-14-2015, 07:15 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2015/10/14/ryan-grant-blames-himself-for-kirk-cousinss-game-ending-pick-six-against-atlanta/?postshare=8571444857993



I really like Grant. I can't believe a receiver actually took the blame for something.

punch it in
10-14-2015, 07:56 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2015/10/14/ryan-grant-blames-himself-for-kirk-cousinss-game-ending-pick-six-against-atlanta/?postshare=8571444857993



I really like Grant. I can't believe a receiver actually took the blame for something.


Its when they get paid and host their own reality show that you want to see them taking the blame.
In all seriousness I dont think we can blame him for falling down? Glad he got his qb's back though. Classy move for sure.

Hog1
10-14-2015, 08:46 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2015/10/14/ryan-grant-blames-himself-for-kirk-cousinss-game-ending-pick-six-against-atlanta/?postshare=8571444857993



I really like Grant. I can't believe a receiver actually took the blame for something.

I really like that.....

DynamiteRave
10-14-2015, 08:51 PM
Refs are a bitch for not calling that block in the back on Grant. I hate those fools.

That Guy
10-14-2015, 10:05 PM
i know i'm late to the party, i've been out, but i think this game we really needed B+ kirk instead of C- kirk.

the running game or the run defense stepping up a bit more could have also changed the end result, but we lost a close game to a better team. disappointed in how it ended, but at least the team has some fight. hopefully we can take out the frustration of this loss on the jets.

Chico23231
10-15-2015, 09:09 AM
Why hasnt anybody here talked about the missed block by the olineman on the last play?

Listening to Mike Robinson from nfl network, said that at looking at tape that jumped out at him as the main cause of the int. Said the Cousins read and throw were fine for that situation. Said the combination of the poor oline play and the let down by the WR reason for that loss and everybody wants to talk Kirk Cousins? I guess folks are giving passes to the oline now?

CRedskinsRule
10-15-2015, 10:01 AM
Why hasnt anybody here talked about the missed block by the olineman on the last play?

Listening to Mike Robinson from nfl network, said that at looking at tape that jumped out at him as the main cause of the int. Said the Cousins read and throw were fine for that situation. Said the combination of the poor oline play and the let down by the WR reason for that loss and everybody wants to talk Kirk Cousins? I guess folks are giving passes to the oline now?
I think Kirk absolved the o-line by saying he should have changed the protection call when he saw the defense.

Interestingly it was probably a very similar play to one where griffin took a huge sack in the preseason and many gave griffin a pass blaming the o-line instead.

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