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skinsfan69 10-02-2015, 08:38 PM If it was just a matter of players, there would be no need for coaches. Scheming/game plan matters, its not just players. We have shown when we power run, we can. But when we are running the ball with a TE built for catching and not blocking being responsible for a DE on the attack side, thats a scheme error.
Players certainly deserve their share of the blame, but to say it was just the players fault is to claim the NFL game is as standard as pop warner, and thats just plain wrong.
I agree, I just didn't see instances where we were getting out coached. There have been instances in the past but just didn't see that against the Giants.
It's always the same. Loss = bad coaching/play calling. Fans put way too much emphasis on this stuff.
30gut 10-02-2015, 08:59 PM I agree, I just didn't see instances where we were getting out coached. There have been instances in the past but just didn't see that against the Giants.I have a question for you then (actually a few)...do you think there is someone on the roster that can provide better punt protection then Plummer? Whose responsiblity is it to ensure that the better player was on the field?
Is there a better POA blocking TE then Carrier? Whose responsiblity is it to make sure that McCoy is in the game blocking POA?
Whose job is to recognize that our TEs (other then McCoy) can be effective in combo or double team blocks but not singled up vs a DE?
Whose job is to recognize that Roberts has the drops and not count on him in key spots?
Whose decision is it attack via the pass vs diverse run game with 2-3 TEs?
Whose decision is it not to play Rashard Ross?
Whose decision is to not double ODB?
I can go on...and drill down further into the myriad of coach controlled decisions that can win or lose games.
Coaches matter, scheme matters.
It's why a player succeed in one scheme and fail in another its why rueben droughns can be an 1,000 yard rusher its Alex Smith can go from a bust to solid starting QB...etc...etc...etc...
OmahaRedskins 10-02-2015, 11:03 PM In the NFL, the home team wins about 57% of the time. On Thursday night games, this goes up to 60%. When you are a flawed team, on the road, on Thursday night, you will lose.
RedskinJake 10-02-2015, 11:16 PM It's always the same. Loss = bad coaching/play calling. Fans put way too much emphasis on this stuff.
We don't have depth anywhere on this team except DL and RB. These guys who are complaining about coaching like we'd be superbowl bound if only we had Tom Coughlin as a head coach drive me nuts. This year isn't about a deep playoff run, we're just trying to get into the mid level. Let's do that first. Tom Coughlin, Andy Reid or Hank Stram wouldn't have this team 14-2 so everybody just relax and appreciate that we are heading in the right direction for once.. Maybe a year or two from now, we'll be there but don't throw out the positives we've seen and start blaming the coaches.. This is a good start, be excited about it..
Bucket 10-02-2015, 11:20 PM We don't have depth anywhere on this team except DL and RB. These guys who are complaining about coaching like we'd be superbowl bound if only we had Tom Coughlin as a head coach drive me nuts. This year isn't about a deep playoff run, we're just trying to get into the mid level. Let's do that first. Tom Coughlin, Andy Reid or Hank Stram wouldn't have this team 14-2 so everybody just relax and appreciate that we are heading in the right direction for once.. Maybe a year or two from now, we'll be there but don't throw out the positives we've seen and start blaming the coaches.. This is a good start, be excited about it..
This guy gets it
Skinzman 10-02-2015, 11:31 PM We don't have depth anywhere on this team except DL and RB. These guys who are complaining about coaching like we'd be superbowl bound if only we had Tom Coughlin as a head coach drive me nuts. This year isn't about a deep playoff run, we're just trying to get into the mid level. Let's do that first. Tom Coughlin, Andy Reid or Hank Stram wouldn't have this team 14-2 so everybody just relax and appreciate that we are heading in the right direction for once.. Maybe a year or two from now, we'll be there but don't throw out the positives we've seen and start blaming the coaches.. This is a good start, be excited about it..
Stop with the whole strawman bs... No one has predicted a SB trip this year. I said we would be lucky to get to 8 wins prior to the season. However, when we show success at power running, then go away from that on a Thursday night game, I dont feel bad about saying it was bad scheming going into a Thursday night game. We completely rewrote what we did the first two games going into a short week. That is beyond stupid.
rocnrik 10-03-2015, 12:16 AM This guy gets it
I AGREE 10000000000000% ..You do get it!! New england's coaching staff could not get this team deep in playoffs…not this year .BUT after one more offseason and figuring out the QB situation ..who knows!
rocnrik 10-03-2015, 12:24 AM Stop with the whole strawman bs... No one has predicted a SB trip this year. I said we would be lucky to get to 8 wins prior to the season. However, when we show success at power running, then go away from that on a Thursday night game, I dont feel bad about saying it was bad scheming going into a Thursday night game. We completely rewrote what we did the first two games going into a short week. That is beyond stupid.
It was Not a bad game plan at all..the running game is dictated by so many other factors ..you only get the ball so many times in a game and if you get down by 2 touchdowns you can't really grind it out and expect to come back..the good teams that make big comebacks almost always do it either big pass plays or turnovers resulting in points..I agree that we should try and run as much as possible but that game went against us from the get go and what frustrated me was Cousins not able to make a big play ..if he is going to throw a lot of interceptions he better dang well be able to hit some big plays!
Skinzman 10-03-2015, 02:06 AM It was Not a bad game plan at all..the running game is dictated by so many other factors ..you only get the ball so many times in a game and if you get down by 2 touchdowns you can't really grind it out and expect to come back..the good teams that make big comebacks almost always do it either big pass plays or turnovers resulting in points..I agree that we should try and run as much as possible but that game went against us from the get go and what frustrated me was Cousins not able to make a big play ..if he is going to throw a lot of interceptions he better dang well be able to hit some big plays!
But you cant go off about us being a bad team and then say the good teams do it so we should also. I also disagree about coming from behind. You do whatever gets you points. If grinding it out gives you points but trying to be New England doesnt, then dont try to be New England and go ahead and grind it out. Especially when your non-elite QB was having a bad night. As I said earlier, if KC was on, the play calls would be pretty good. But when he was struggling all night, try something else.
The fact is we went from a power running game the first two weeks to doing a run game out of pass sets. And did it on a short week to boot.
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