Looking ahead to the Eagles

Do you believe that was the game plan at opening kick off?

Four out of 5 first offensive plays were throws, so yes to your question

Please never put Georgia in the top 10 unless they are at least 10-0. That team can never win the big game. Getting merked at home by a solid but not great Bama team.

If we lose to Philly our season is over for playoffs, don't see us beating Atlanta and 1-4 is no bueno. And no I didn't expect playoffs, just mentioning it. I was hoping for 8-8. I'd settle for 7-9. For some reason 6-10 and 7-9 seems like such a HUGE difference. Just get to at least 7 wins please. 3 win increase from last year is solid improvement.

Four out of 5 first offensive plays were throws, so yes to your question

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You can pick any sample size and make that argument. Like on our 3rd drive we did nothing but run.

The actual play call numbers from the 1st quarter were:

6 running calls and 5 passing calls.

The passing calls increased in the 2nd quarter making the total calls for the 1st half:

14 running plays and 16 passing plays.

That's including the 5th drive with the following 4 pass play calls:

2nd and 13
2nd and 17
3rd and 6
and 3rd and 9.

I realize that one of the 2nd down play calls could have been a run but the other three were probably gonna be passes.

Including our first drive of the 2nd half, the total play calls at that point in the game were:

17 running plays and 20 passing plays.

Considering what a down and distance debacle our 5th drive turned into, it wasn't a pass happy ratio at all.

Then we went down 25 to 6. Everything changed dramatically after that.

I understand the frustration, but the game plan wasn't for Kirk to pass the ball 50 times. We were down by 3 scores trying to play catch up.

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You can pick any sample size and make that argument. Like on our 3rd drive we did nothing but run.

The actual play call numbers from the 1st quarter were:

6 running calls and 5 passing calls.

The passing calls increased in the 2nd quarter making the total calls for the 1st half:

14 running plays and 16 passing plays.

That's including the 5th drive with the following 4 pass play calls:

2nd and 13
2nd and 17
3rd and 6
and 3rd and 9.

I realize that one of the 2nd down play calls could have been a run but the other three were probably gonna be passes.

Including our first drive of the 2nd half, the play calls were:

17 running plays and 20 passing plays.

Considering what a down and distance debacle our 5th drive turned into, it wasn't a pass happy ratio at all.

Then we went down 25 to 6. Everything changed dramatically after that.

I understand the frustration, but the game plan wasn't for Kirk to pass the ball 50 times. It turned into that in the 2nd half.

You do understand that Jay gruden strategy of throw first at the beginning of the game lead us directly to the 9-0 hole?

You do understand that Jay gruden strategy of throw first at the beginning of the game lead us directly to the 9-0 hole?

No. I don't understand that at all.

1st drive:

Jay's play calling got us in a 3rd and 2. (How is this bad?)

Then Reed picked somebody like he was in the NBA finals and was called for the penalty.

I guess Jay should have known the 33 yard gain on his 3rd and 2 play call would be erased and they would be in a 3rd and 12.

Then it is Jay's fault for calling a dumb pass play on 3rd and 12. You'd prefer a draw play and then a punt?

Then Breeland runs out of bounds on his own on the 1st punt and is called for the penalty. We have to punt for a second time close to our end zone. Jay should have sat down with him pre-game and explained this confusing rule to him!

Jay should have anchored because he got pushed back across the punter. Or did McLovin make a mistake signing a back up LB who can't play special teams. Or did Kowica forget to tell the guy the low man wins. Or did the guy just make a bad play.

Not sure which, but it has to be Jay's fault.

2nd drive:

He calls a run to Alf. Good call that plays to our strength.

Then our starting left guard goes out and is replaced by all pro back up guard . . .

Oh, NM, He was replaced by McRib.

Jay calls a play action pass out of a run formation with a FB in the game on 2nd and 7 with eight Giants in the box. They are playing run. We call play action. Can't get any better.

7 of the 8 Giant players in the box are on the line of scrimmage ready to hit Alf in the backfield.

BECAUSE THEY JUST SAW MCRIB COME IN THE GAME.

If they would have run the ball on that play it would have gone from 2nd and 7 to 3rd and 9. They were going to abuse McRib.

Then a terrible pass on a route Garcon rounded off.

But somehow it's Jay's fault.

I'm not playing dumb. I probably just am. But I don't understand how Jay led us to 9-0.

I think a handful of our guys made a string of dumb, stupid, bad plays that put us down 9-0.

Reed on the pick. Erased a 33 yard gain. Turned 3rd and 2 into 3rd and 12.

Breeland on the punt penalty. Caused us to re punt.

Plummer stood straight up and got pushed into our punter.

Kirk throws a really dumb pass.

Garcon runs a really sloppy route. (From Cooley's film breakdown.)

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FYI: On a personal note, I really like the play calling from the first two games. I like run first, pass second.

That being said, I don't have any issues with exploiting a defense. I believe they noticed something on film in the Giant's secondary they could take advantage of. Just a hunch, but I think that's why we opened the game the way we did.

It was aggressive, like we were trying to win.

It almost worked with the 33 yard gain erased by penalty.

This is the game the wheels fall off...Eagles give us a beat down and the team can't recover the rest of the season... 35-10 Eagles.

SKINS 28 filly 17 !

I'll tell you one thing that WON'T happen: one team will not win without the other one sucking major balls. If we win, it's because the Eagles self-destruct and vice versa. Would be nice to watch two teams slug it out and talent trump crazy-shit-happening-because-that's-Redskins-football and the best team come out on top.

I think we win if we can prevent Sam Bradford from having a "get back on track" game. We're good for getting people in a rhythm. Defense is still impressing me, but not quite good enough yet.

Can't predict a score, but if we have NO fuck-ups (INTs, lost fumbles, ST miscues) I think we win. Seems like it shouldn't be a ton to ask.

In my opinion we have better lines on both sides of the ball. I just don't trust we can not beat ourselves.

It may be a very ugly game.

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...Then Reed picked somebody like he was in the NBA finals and was called for the penalty.

I guess Jay should have known the 33 yard gain on his 3rd and 2 play call would be erased and they would be in a 3rd and 12.I'm gonna digress for a second but I hate it when people turn playcalling into nothing more then run/pass choices. What type of run? What type of pass...what formation...what personnel..etc......

Anyhow....

Jay didn't have to pass on 3rd and 2. He chose to pass and the result was negative. Just like last year when on 3rd and 2 or less he was pass heavy DESPITE being more productive on the ground in those situations. That's a coaching issue.

Jay should have anchored because he got pushed back across the punter. Or did McLovin make a mistake signing a back up LB who can't play special teams. Or did Kowica forget to tell the guy the low man wins. Or did the guy just make a bad play.A good coach doesn't put his newly signed practice squad LB on punt protect ESPECIALLY when punt protect has already been an issue. Yes, it's Kotwica's fault and as the HC of team (not just the offense but the team) its Jay fault for not seeing and correcting the issue. We have other players more capable to play punt protect then Plummer but we didn't have them out there. Yes, it Plummer's fault for getting beat but its a coaching mistake to have him out there in position to fail in the first place.

I really don't understand why its so hard for you to see/accept that as a coaching mistake in addition to being a player mistake?

If they would have run the ball on that play it would have gone from 2nd and 7 to 3rd and 9. They were going to abuse McRib.Lol, well since you already no the outcome of the calls we didn't make then there is nothing to discuss then?

The notion that because a team plays 8 in the box we can't/shouldn't run is dumb. And its also patently incorrect. Hyperbole. Exxageration. Its untrue. A fabrication. A falsehood. A misconception. A myth. A fallacy.

FYI: On a personal note, I really like the play calling from the first two games. I like run first, pass second.Then I'm confused because for me it doesn't logically follow to like the playcalling in those game and also excuse them for not even trying in the Giants game. *shrugs*

That being said, I don't have any issues with exploiting a defense. I believe they noticed something on film in the Giant's secondary they could take advantage of. Just a hunch, but I think that's why we opened the game the way we did.I'm certain they thought they could exploit the Giants via the pass. I'm saying i think that was a mistake because it plays to our weakness....the passing game.

I have no issues with any style of offense provided its effecient and effective.
Trying to attack via the pass and hitting on some throws but missing on more isn't the recipe to win games when we can both productive and efficient with the ground game. The big throws will come J, just be patient and establish the run to start the game.

It was aggressive, like we were trying to win.Puzzled. Correct me if I'm wrong but this seems like you are saying attack via the pass is aggressive and trying to win but establishing the run is not? Even though the games where the team had the best chances to win are the games where we established the run...

We can agree to disagree, but at some point you're gonna have to admit when J makes a coaching mistake. Its okay to watch a game an admit mistakes right? We're allowed to point out a coaching mistake or do you really think the coaching was solid just bad players?