skins89moss
09-27-2015, 02:19 AM
Who are the top ranked college qbs? Cook and the kid from cal?
Really you think a college QB is going to come in next season and make that much of a difference for us next year. Good Luck with that bro college QB's are very rare breed who are pro ready. They all run the spread offense.
skinsfaninok
09-27-2015, 02:20 AM
Really you think a college QB is going to come in next season and make that much of a difference for us next year. Good Luck with that bro college QB's are very rare breed who are pro ready. They all run the spread offense.
That was my point lol that's y I asked
skins89moss
09-27-2015, 02:26 AM
we still need to find our franchise quarterback
You think they are falling off trees? Franchise QB's don't come around every year. In fact they don't always have to be in the 1st round. See Tom Brady 6th rd and Russell Wilson 3rd. Sometimes a franchise can luck up and get one. Make no mistake we haven't had franchise QB since Joe T. Joe Gibbs won with 3 different QB's and not one of them was a franchise QB.
30gut
09-27-2015, 02:52 AM
well lets talk X and O's.. where did Gruden fail the redskins thursday night? all is saw was poor execution by the PLAYERSRight off the bat I can tell we're gonna disagree b/c I believe the players level of execution is a product of how well they are coached and specifically putting them in positions to have success.
So where did J fail you ask?
(1) gameplan....IF our identity is gonna be run focused then we actually need to commit to running the ball. Against the Giants we did not. We did not follow the gameplan that brought success vs the Rams. We followed a gameplan where Kirk was asked to pass the ball too much, thus placing Kirk in position to fail...which he did. Our strength right now is not the passing but the running game....the OL Trent, Scherff, Moses, Alf and Matt Jones.
(2) Personnel and prep punt return unit. The Gints identified a weakness in our punt protection and exploited it. J had a newly active LB (Plummer) in a key position on punt protect and he failed.
(3) Refusal to run the ball on 3rd and 2. Going deep on 3rd and 2. Inefficient.
(4) On a key short yardage conversion attempt using Carrier (who we know is not a proven run blocker) to block the POA as opposed to McCoy (a known effective run blocker).
(5) Targeting Roberts, known to have drop issues last year and displayed those same issues already...Parcells? I believe said think players not plays when it comes to key situations...i.e
I could go on but its late i'm tired but you get the idea....I am not saying the whole game was on J. But since YOU asked for areas where he failed there are some.
HTTR
skins89moss
09-27-2015, 03:30 AM
I'd love gruden and his o coordinator to try as well
And after they do it, they need to be able to make in game adjustments to win football games. That's part of the job.
How about stop with the obvious pick plays that's cost us 3-4 penalties already. Or not call an obvious play action that was easily read by the defense and intercepted with our ass up against our own goal line.
These plays that are being called pick plays are the same kind of plays the Patriots run and don't get called for PI. We are held to a different standard cause we have been awful for years.
skins89moss
09-27-2015, 03:34 AM
Cousins should just watch Varsity Blues next Saturday night..."Fire that fucking pigskin"...and he'll be good.
To everyone, I love this site, without it out here in Cali I'd be so much more depressed.
Even if I don't agree with you on a specific topic, you all make being a Skins fan more enjoyable.
At the end of the days, regardless of opinions/strategy, we all just want to win. Httr.
Yea I love this site cause living in Vegas and working in Cali i get to vent to other diehard Redskins fans. You all understand my pain. I do have Raider fans i see from time 2 time and we understand each other.
Bucket
09-27-2015, 03:39 AM
Fans only consider committing to the run as running on every down, every play.
The split was almost 50/50 run to pass in the first half. That's not bad considering we couldn't get any short fields or turnovers. While trailing by 2 scores most the game.
Gruden wants to commit to the run, but any logical person could tell last night that wasn't going to happen for very long. We lost our starting LG. Rib was getting destroyed all night.
No Turnovers
Trailing by two scores for 90% of the game
Lost starting LG.
Facing the #3 ranked run defense and 31st pass defense
Lost time of possession
Only had 2 days of practice.
Penalties
Also... Our BEST starting field position of the night was the 28 yard line. Think about that. Think about it hard. We can't afford to run the ball 25 times a game and run off 12 minutes of the clock on a drive when we have to go 80 yards every drive while down by NOT 1, but 2 scores.
Oh and did I mention our defense couldn't get off the field? The first drive of the 3rd Quarter took 8 minutes off the clock. 8 fucking minutes! Still down by two scores I might add.
So no... We couldn't afford to run 50 times yesterday because we didn't do the things needed by the rest of the fucking TEAM. To be able to run the football.
I'm more pissed about why we are only rushing 4 down while having our DB play 8 yards off the line. Makes no sense. Eli just played catch with his WR down the field eating clock. I believe he started the game 10/10!!! Barry made no fucking adjustment. Even when Breeland was struggling. Breeland was targeted last night for 9 catches and 160yards!!!!!! Yet you don't play to Culliver and Breeland strength and jam the WR because you are protecting your safeties. I just think it's going to be a long season for the Defense if we can't seem to get pressure with 4. Or if we play like we did last night.
So please... Stop with the commitment to the run bullshit. You can't do it when you can't get off the field as a defense, and force shorter fields while down 2 or more scores.
I was actually impressed that the coaches gameplanning on a short week to exploit the Giants weakness which is the secondary. It just sucks Kirk had a bad game and couldn't hit a few throws that should of been touchdowns. He makes 1 or those throws and you see the running numbers a little higher.
30gut
09-27-2015, 03:49 AM
....So no... We couldn't afford to run 50 times yesterday because we didn't do the things needed by the rest of the fucking TEAM. To be able to run the football.
....So please... Stop with the commitment to the run bullshit. You can't do it when you can't get off the field as a defense, and force shorter fields while down 2 or more scores.I love it when the response to a post is hyperbole. I love how "commitment to run" is bullshit.
We didn't start the game down 2 scores. You don't have to stop running even if you're down 2 scores. Running the ball actually helps an OL. Running the ball actually helps the defense. You can be happy with a gameplan that gives the team's best weapon on offense 6 carries, I'm not.
Fan033
09-27-2015, 04:15 AM
My reaction - Starting with poor field possession, we went steadily downhill. The game was over from the beginning. Injuries galore and poor play - looks like this will be another stinko year. There have been so many bad years. When will this nightmare end?
That Guy
09-27-2015, 08:58 AM
i do think we stopped trying to run too early last game. you can be down 9 points and still run when there's 45 minutes left in the game. I don't know if they moved off it cause of the gameplan/giants D, because of the OL injuries, because of audibles at the line taking them out of run plays, or because J felt like chucking it. it's hard to tell from the outside.