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That Guy
09-23-2015, 09:08 PM
i don't think pff is totally worthless, but i'd have to say i trust cooley's breakdown more, since he watches like 12 hours on a single skins game (pff has soo much data to track that the analysis is shallower or somewhat automated in parts, i'm sure).

they might just have a rubric that they can hand to a high-schooler on "this is a +1 play, this is a -1 play."

calia
09-23-2015, 09:11 PM
Sometimes, I would just prefer to enjoy a hard earned win by the team without the dissection to follow. This is one of those times.

30gut
09-23-2015, 10:41 PM
After listening to Cooley's film breakdown on the offense yesterday evening I put zero (0) faith in this.

He compared the grades PFF gave Trent to his own observations and said PFF was flat out wrongWhere is Cooley getting PFF's grade for Trent from? They didn't publish the individual grades yet; only the game reviews, which didn't include a grade for Trent.

Anyhow, PFF is used by ~19 NFL teams. Are they infallible? No; but neither is Cooley.

RedskinJake
09-23-2015, 10:43 PM
Where is Cooley getting PFF's grade for Trent from? They didn't publish the individual grades yet; only the game reviews, which didn't include a grade for Trent.

Anyhow, PFF is used by ~19 NFL teams. Are they infallible? No; but neither is Cooley.

^^ exactly.. not saying Cooley is wrong but those guys are pro scouts. Cooley is not. Players are notoriously bad at evaluating other players. They may have seen something else they did not like. PFF is typically high on Trent Williams.

30gut
09-23-2015, 10:46 PM
^^ exactly.. not saying Cooley is wrong but those guys are pro scouts. Cooley is not. Players are notoriously bad at evaluating other players. They may have seen something else they did not like. PFF is typically high on Trent Williams.The only bits i've read about Trent on PFF is this:
"Offensive tackle Trent Williams is one of two left tackles to not allow a pressure this season."

And not directly related to the Trent convo but Cooley also lacks objectivity. He admittedly is a fan of the Redskins AND also has a friendship with McVay and working relationship with J on the coaches show. Cooley's analysis is heavily influenced by their opinions.

That Guy
09-23-2015, 11:00 PM
i dunno, cooley will say a player played like crap when they play like crap, which most analysts and talking heads are really reluctant to do, even when it's obvious. He;s also said he's not sure J is a good coach or the right coach too, so i really haven't seen a lot of obvious bias (except for talking about mcvay).

Evilgrin
09-23-2015, 11:11 PM
The tape is the DNA:)

Hog1
09-23-2015, 11:26 PM
i dunno, cooley will say a player played like crap when they play like crap, which most analysts and talking heads are really reluctant to do, even when it's obvious. He;s also said he's not sure J is a good coach or the right coach too, so i really haven't seen a lot of obvious bias (except for talking about mcvay).

Love Cooley's work.
He takes no prisoners, yet does not go out of his way to throw anybody under the bus. Provides great detail in his film breakdowns. I really have come to put a lot of stock in both He and BMitch....

WillH
09-24-2015, 12:53 AM
I think Cooleys breakdown of players performance is awesome. He goes into great detail on what specifically in their technique they did well or didn't do well. Hand positioning, getting to landmarks, accelerating at the right time, foot movement, choosing routes, etc.

He might be a little biased, but it seems like he tries to keep that in check and does a good job of it.

Chico23231
09-24-2015, 09:05 AM
Silverback has been damn impressive so far this year. Sometimes we seem to take his play for granted, but he is a top 5 tackle in the league. Yes top 5

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