Cousins to start 2015 Season


Ruhskins
09-10-2015, 10:09 AM
Oh man, two Goat references in the same week? LOL.

SCRedskinsFan
09-10-2015, 11:03 AM
Well, that's just the thing. He does, at times, raise legitimate, interesting points that could form the basis for a good discussion. [Yes, I disagree that, at this stage, for where this team is going, RGIII is a legitimate fall back option. However, I get the "let's keep him in case the JG/KC experiment fails" argument. I actually bought into it until his latest off-the-field drama, injury and apparent on-field issues.]

It's just that, in order to set the boundaries of a discussion, he generally asks a loaded question which requires anyone replying to it to accept his premise in order to respond to it. Thus, rather than a real discussion, it becomes an exercise in "See how right my unassailable premise is." Those who disagree with the premise and phrase a response that incorporates the disagreement are simply dismissed as "unresponsive." It really is just a rhetorical gadget play because, technically, those who disagree with the premise can't respond to the specific question

It's a cross-examination technique that can be a very persuasive rhetorical technique IF you lay the proper foundation such that you get everyone to agree with the question's underlying premise [b/c then there is only one "right" answer]. He never does that, and, in fact, I suspect knows folks don't agree with the premise so he skips the first part intentionally and then claims the rhetorical high ground by asserting others are unresponsive. It's just intellectually lazy and insulting to those trying to actually discuss competing viewpoints and opinions.

It's the damn internet - not a scholarly debate. A little recognition that most responses are relatively stream of conscience so slack needs to be cut and an open mind needs to be kept. Otherwise its all mental masturbation and Big Man On Internet bull crap.

If he spent less time being pedantic and dismissive of others and more time actually looking for and acknowledging points of agreement, he actually could add to the discussion rather than just attempt to prove himself correct through rhetorical sleight of hand.

He isn't quite at Goat levels of obnoxiousness yet (Still the only guy I have ever put on ignore). Getting there, but not yet. There is still hope.

Hey, if punch could come around, anyone can - ;)

Love this post, right on JoeR!

By the way, was "stream of conscience" a Freudian slip?

OnceWeWereKings
09-10-2015, 11:10 AM
I think he's a sociopath. Or at the very least has narcissistic personality disorder.
Or he's just clown shoes.

Schneed10
09-10-2015, 11:52 AM
30 honestly I've started to completely ignore your posts because they get to the point where they're arguing whether someone else made a valid point that addresses the very specific point you want addressed, and less and less real discussion on football.

The only reason I know that you're even being a pain in the ass is because I've read JR's posts here.

People will begin to ignore you if reading your stuff gets to the point where it's not worth it. I like to read posts about the Redskins, not a bunch of drivel as to whether you think someone is arguing a point you think is valid. You're on the road to irrelevance.

JoeRedskin
09-10-2015, 11:55 AM
... was "stream of conscience" a Freudian slip?

No. I'm a lawyer. I have no conscience which to stream.

JoeRedskin
09-10-2015, 12:03 PM
Oh man, two Goat references in the same week? LOL.

... and his buddy, the big-oil, Denver Broncos insider who kept Goat so well informed.

That Guy
09-10-2015, 12:03 PM
so, uh... how about that cousins guy? should be pretty interesting to see how he does on sunday. thoughts?

skinsfaninok
09-10-2015, 12:04 PM
I think he's going to play well.

over the mountain
09-10-2015, 12:13 PM
Rodgers described the three rules as "senses," saying:

"One: No premeditated decisions.

"Two: Don’t make a blind throw. And that was a blind throw, meaning I didn’t look inside to see where the next coverage element was—that will get you sometimes. It got me against Conte.

"Three: Don’t throw it late down the middle."

Read more: Aaron Rodgers describes rules he follows to make a throw - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/aaron-rodgers-passing-master-2015-9#ixzz3lLg7Q8eb)
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from everything weve heard, Cousins needs to follow rule 1.

Just bc you read the safety pre-snap and your premeditated first read should be wide open by all accounts ... maybe let the play develop for 1 second to see if your pre-snap read was correct.

being a Qb in the NFL seems almost impossible ... im sure the off coord makes it easier by asking the QB to read just one defensive player but i cant imagine having to read a guy and make a quick mental decision to throw ball, then have the brain tell body how to throw the ball .. all in 2.7 seconds.

1 second - read d post-snap confirming what you read pre-snap is still accurate, all while a bunch of huge dudes battle in front of you making weird grunting sounds

1.5 seconds - brain decides to throw ball, brain tell body to throw the ball with the certain touch/velocity etc

2.5 seconds - ball leaving hand

2.7 seconds - haloti ngata crashes in on your plant leg

2.8 seconds - acl snaps

3 seconds - length of your nfl career

MTK
09-10-2015, 12:20 PM
Cousins downfall is definitely rule #1, and I assume it's one that kills a lot of young QBs. Hopefully he can grow out of it.

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