Cousins to start 2015 Season

@NFLonCBS: London Fletcher: Jay Gruden failed at his job of developing RG III
London Fletcher: Jay Gruden failed at his job of developing RG3 - CBSSports.com (http://t.co/lh5GWwIKYM) http://t.co/yqnYDZtDxM

This is why pressure is now squarely on Gruden. He had final say and it's now put up or shut up.

Either way I think both Griffin and Gruden are gone before 2016 season starts.

Absolutely. In fact, Griffin regressed under Gruden. Not all Gruden's fault of course, but he failed at what he was brought in to do.

P.S. You have to wonder why Griffin went from solid in 2013 under Shanny to crap in 2014.

Absolutely. In fact, Griffin regressed under Gruden. Not all Gruden's fault of course, but he failed at what he was brought in to do.

P.S. You have to wonder why Griffin went from solid in 2013 under Shanny to crap in 2014.

Robert Griffin Stats - Washington Redskins - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14875/robert-griffin)

Umm. . .

Maybe Gruden failed with RG3, but maybe he succeeded with Cousins? We shall see.

Cousins is going to catch fire in the middle of the season, u heard it here 1st :)

Both Shanny and JG have alluded if not stated, he cannot be a drop back passer at this time. Thought the available info suggests Robert no longer wanted to be a running QB. For ALL the reasons anyone who has watched Robert/Skins game of late.
It would be difficult if not absurd to put this on Gruden. He may be fired for other sins at a later date, but Robert through injury, lack of Pro style evolution, work/study habits and a ridiculous.....social program has F...d up

Both Shanny and JG have alluded if not stated, he cannot be a drop back passer at this time. Thought the available info suggests Robert no longer wanted to be a running QB. For ALL the reasons anyone who has watched Robert/Skins game of late.

It would be difficult if not absurd to put this on Gruden. He may be fired for other sins at a later date, but Robert through injury, lack of Pro style evolution, work/study habits and a ridiculous.....social program has F...d up


I'm 100% on board with shanny and Gruden belief that RGIII is not a pocket passer. IMO that part is clearly obvious.

So there were 2 options for Gruden: develop RG3/run read option or go with traditional pocket passer type (cousins).

He made his choice. London was right that Gruden was brought in to develop Griffin. Much was written about this at the time. He decided that he couldn't do it and needed a pocket passer for HIS system.

That's fine, but now it's time to show results or he will get canned. It's the bottom line, really.

Shanny took shots at Gruden for not adapting and working towards robert's strength, R/O. That's fine if he refused but now it's down to he better succeed with cousins/McCoy this year or he's out.

Against the Ravens, RGIII looked dreadful. I'm sorry he got hurt but it was obvious he hadn't learned a thing about staying in the pocket. The move to put Cousins in as quarterback is the right move. RGIII needs to move on.

IF the Redskins were the ONLY team to ever whiff on a draft pick I would really be upset..but as any real football fan knows there have been a lot of whiffs..I loved the pick at that time! ..Looking back Shanny and Kyle were the perfect fit for RGlll (he was rookie of year!!…lets not forget that!!)…what the hell happened?? INJURY..INJURIES..THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED! RGlll lost several steps and all his confidence plus add in all the other drama with coaching changes,Ownership issue and other factors why is it a surprise? Heath Shuler was a major whiff and there has been a lot of others ..The Skins saw the future gave up a ton to go after it and after that first season EVERYBODY gave the move a Thumbs up!..but that one game vs SEATTLE ..that injury and you know the rest of the story. I hope that RGlll somehow can get it back and have a career in the Nfl ..but at this point it does not look good ,who's fault is it..NOBODY is at fault! it is the way life is ..it happens all the time to average folks in all walks of life. I say let the Redskins deal with all this the way they see fit and as fans we get behind the team and who ever is qb and support them OR move on ..I know we all are disappointed but how do you think RGlll ,Dan Snyder and all the rest feel.. NOBODY WANTED THIS ..but we got to move on! Lets get behind this team !! GO SKINS!!

I'm 100% on board with shanny and Gruden belief that RGIII is not a pocket passer. IMO that part is clearly obvious.

So there were 2 options for Gruden: develop RG3/run read option or go with traditional pocket passer type (cousins).

He made his choice. London was right that Gruden was brought in to develop Griffin. Much was written about this at the time. He decided that he couldn't do it and needed a pocket passer for HIS system.

That's fine, but now it's time to show results or he will get canned. It's the bottom line, really.

Shanny took shots at Gruden for not adapting and working towards robert's strength, R/O. That's fine if he refused but now it's down to he better succeed with cousins/McCoy this year or he's out.

Have you been paying attention to the last two and a half years?

1. RG3 vetoed the read option. 2. He isn't a pocket passer.

There isn't another way to be a QB in the NFL.

So Gruden better succeed with the QB's that he and the current GM inherited or else eh?

Really? That's the standard? He made a choice between RG3, Krik, and Colt.

In a perfect world, Gruden's choice should have been Luck, but since he had to pick from the three QB's we have Kirk is the guy.

Why not be more like the Steelers and build a team and an identity instead. How many coaches have they had in the last 30 years?

Based on reports mclovin and jay have similar philosophies. No idea if this is accurate or media fluff.

There are legit knocks on Gruden. Lack of QB coach. Lack of media savvy. Etc. . .

Not turning a steaming pile of dog crap into a shiny pile of gold isn't a legit criticism.

Have you been paying attention to the last two and a half years?



1. RG3 vetoed the read option. 2. He isn't a pocket passer.



There isn't another way to be a QB in the NFL.



So Gruden better succeed with the QB's that he and the current GM inherited or else eh?



Really? That's the standard? He made a choice between RG3, Krik, and Colt.



In a perfect world, Gruden's choice should have been Luck, but since he had to pick from the three QB's we have Kirk is the guy.



Why not be more like the Steelers and build a team and an identity instead. How many coaches have they had in the last 30 years?



Based on reports mclovin and jay have similar philosophies. No idea if this is accurate or media fluff.



There are legit knocks on Gruden. Lack of QB coach. Lack of media savvy. Etc. . .



Not turning a steaming pile of dog crap into a shiny pile of gold isn't a legit criticism.


Is your reading comprehension that bad?

I've said numerous times on this board that rg3 is not a pocket passer. I've said numerous times he would only succeed in a R/O.

Shanahan and others have said Gruden was stubborn and didn't adjust his system to rg3 and that's fine because it's his choice...but with that the pressure is on him to make HIS SYSTEM work with HIS CHOSEN QB.

Next time perhaps you should read exactly what I wrote before responding to what you think you read.

There was Griffin before the second ACL tear, and then the guy afterwards who just seemed to get worse the more he played. I don't think the system matters.

Gruden is definately on the hot seat, he should be. He talks as much as anyone.