PSUSkinsFan21
05-18-2005, 03:53 PM
Hey Schneed - last time I checked the Texans are doing an amazing job with personel and they had more wins than us. Not bad for an expansion team.
Yah, 1 more.....last year.
And that comment was presumably after the Texans 2003 5-11 season, which coincidentally matched the Skins record under the fabulous Steve Spurrier. I guess they just wanted to find a different way of going 5-11.
PSUSkinsFan21
05-18-2005, 03:55 PM
I won't deny Gibbs himself was also to blame, but at the same time there isn't another coach I trust more to fix this offense. Gibbs will get it done, if he doesn't it won't be for a lack of effort... and that's a lot more than we can say about you know who.
Oh come on now........swinging those golf clubs took a lot of effort. Just ask his caddie Danny Wuerffle....those things can be heavy.
That's like if Lombardi came back to coach the Packers, and everyone was supposed to just forget about his past accomplishments and judge him for today alone.
Not gonna happen.
JWsleep
05-18-2005, 04:05 PM
Good god, what's going on in this thread? It really must be the middle of may...
Gibbs switches to more zone blocking and the shot gun. What in the world is the problem??? My guess is that both sides of the debate are correct.
1. The offense was weak last year. Gibbs is responsible for that (he'd absolutely be the first to admit that, and he has repeatedly). So it's completely reasonable to quetsion his coaching--until it works on the field, it doesn't mean a thing. And who cares--in the context of winning games in 2005--what went on in the 80's?
2. BUT--here's the main reason to respect Gibbs: he's wise enough to make the changes, and he works hard all the time to make the team better. We learned that he's making what we all feel are the correct changes--zone blocking, screens, down-field passing, etc--why is this an opportuinity to knock him? He's doing what we want, change-wise. My guess is that he's considered slants, anything that works. That's why he's a good coach.
DId Spurrier change his offense in his second year? No. That's why he's back in college. He can bitch all he wants about not getting to pick his QB (didn't he pick Mathews and Wurfell?), but the system didn't work, and he didn't adapt. Gibbs is at least trying to make the changes, and bringing in people who can help.
aprius
05-18-2005, 04:17 PM
I have no problem with the 4 great O-Linemen we have but after them we have no depth. Hopefully they dont take a single play off this year or we are USC without a paddle.
JWsleep
05-18-2005, 04:25 PM
aprius--you seem to have info on the second year guys that we lack, or you for some reason are very doubtful of their progress. I guess that the one thing I feel pretty good about is knowing that they've been with Bugel from day one of their pro careers--and didn't one of them start a game last year and do well, before hurting his knee? What is the source of your pessimism about these guys? Their youth? Something else? Just curious.
ANother point is that Friedman is probably a better guard than center, so he gives more depth there. BUt whatever. I think the pieces are there, and the rest is chemistry and coaching. And I've yet to be convinced that Bugel and Gibbs can't figure out how to coach an O-line in 2005. But we'll see!
aprius
05-18-2005, 04:39 PM
I know alot of guys go through a soph slump and if they all do it this year we are in trouble. And, yes, one did start before hurting his knee but that brings up question marks right there....Is he going to be an oft injured player? I worry about their inexperience not their youth. ST is as young but he proved that he can play. None of these guys has.
Friedman was a bad backup that became a starter by having no other options. I have faith in Bugel and Gibbs....not so much in our personnel.
ChounsMan
05-18-2005, 04:52 PM
Bowen sucks. I'm willing to bet he won't be starting this year! We can't live in the past. Gibbs' first year back was bad. Let's hope his second year is as good as those we reminisce about.
Bowens is my opinion plays to aggressive against the p/a & w/o blazing speed gets burned by the WR on the posts or deep outs. Saw it happen to many times in the past. We need Taylor to get his ass into camp & start playing some damn fine ball!
That Guy
05-18-2005, 04:58 PM
I like to look at what's wrong with the team and deal with it
how? firing the staff? making personnel trades? we can't do anything but watch and flap our gums ;)
DId Spurrier change his offense in his second year? No. That's why he's back in college.
honestly, going from 9 to 25 on defense (or whatever it was) was a bigger problem than his average offense...
be easy on daseal, he's training to be the next curmudgeon and there are some growing pains involved... just give him a couple years to develop and he should be putting up some decent numbers (wha??) ;)
Schneed10
05-18-2005, 05:22 PM
Hey Schneed - last time I checked the Texans are doing an amazing job with personel and they had more wins than us. Not bad for an expansion team.
I wasn't the one with the Texans comment. I have a lot of respect for Casserly.