Zone blocking

I'd also like to point to the fact that even with crazy schemes such as Chad Morton on Strahan as you suggested, still put up more PPG than Gibbs.


I never said that.

See why can't you say these things you feel and not make it seem like you're being a dick about it? You tend to say things at times that make it seem like you're just out to diss Gibbs or anyone who believes in Gibbs. We all respect eachothers opinions, but theres a way of expressing it.

selecting campbell was the best thing for ramsey deseal. dont you think a NFL organization would know more than you? lol. dont you think they looked at the rookie qb's next year and said we think campbell would be a better option for them? dont you think by selecting campbell would spark a fire in ramsey's ass? dont you think that if ramsey pouts about the pick then gibbs gets the personality of his starter and then will know ramsey isnt our guy? either way we win.

and how do you know that our wr corps is degressed? has the season started yet? and how do you know our o line is upgraded? has the season started yet? you dont know deseal the paper champ. dont say anything unless you have proof or state them as opinions. thanks

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Daseal, why are you such a cock? Everytime someone posts something postitive about the team, you go out of your way to spoil it. Cheer up man. Get laid. Do something.

I have to admit, that's going to keep me laughing for the rest of the week.

Or we can have him use Chad Morton to block Mike Strahan and then he can go coach some college boys down in South Carolina

It's amazing the lack of respect you show to Gibbs. But of course, he hasn't earned it in your mind, right?


In all do respect, Gibbs hasen't earned it in his own mind, he has insisted time and again that what's in the past is in the past, this is a fresh start and he has to earn that respect all over again, he will be judged by what he does now not from what he has done in the past.

I have a question for everyone, forget what Gibbs did in the past and treat him like a brand new coach who has accomplished nothing, then let's hear the evaluation of him pertaining to last season alone and this past draft, I think a lot of the posts will be much different when you remove Gibbs's mystique and evaluate him objectivly.

This question may be better suited for it's own thread.

Oh, by the way, Charley Casserly of the Texans said he's LOVE to have Spurrier as a coach after he left (got fired) here.


:lol: LOL!!! The Texans? Ahh that's good stuff. What a compliment!

And yet somehow he's back coaching college again? Go figure.

Why didn't PR get the ball downfield, Daseal?
Was it quite possible that we didn't give him a chance to make big plays downfield? Sure, we threw the ball to Coles a lot, but I'm curious how many of those balls he caught behind the line of scrimmage. We were a running team, but when we did pass we threw screens and hooks, and curls. Our offense was owned by opposing defenses, ask Wilbon. You said that the reason we didn't throw was to protect Ramsey, and we've argued over this countless times. Why change your tune now and say that it's on Ramsey for not having the chance to throw it.

Schneed - I understand it's not an overnight thing and didn't expect a super bowl overnight. The problem is I'm not sure it's Oline chemistry holding us down rather than schemes and playcalling, which can be changed throughout a season. He had a whole offseason to work on it, and hopefully he'll come out blazing like we've been promised so many times before. It seems like we're so afraid of a turnover that we don't want to take any chances, but when you have a defense like ours you can take some chances to put up points.

Redskins P: Meant that comment for TAFKAS, not for you. I apologize for not seperating it.

I don't feel I've once attacked someone for having faith in Gibbs, they can have all the faith they want. As I've said multiple times, I think he will be successfull, but it may be at the hands of an offensive coordinator. This year will be a good gague of how much he's willing to adapt his gameplan.

What do you mean how did our WRs digress? We had Coles and Gardner, now we have a bunch of #3s. Love or hate him, Gardner was a very decent #2, and even with his bum toe Coles was a good enough #1 (though not what he used to be.) Please, tell me how they upgraded. Santana Moss had one good year, he's small, fragile, fast, and was getting ready to be NY's 3rd WR.

Not all QBs react well to having to look over your shoulder, and that doesn't mean they're a bad player. Ramsey has spent his whole career finally earning the starting job only to have it ripped away. How about we give the kid a chance to prove himself without having to worry about the next guy in line. I think Campbell will be a good player, but that trade was extremely costly.

I have my views on our offense, and everyone else has their own unique view. That's how it works. The problem is, no matter how you look at it, we were 6-10 and you can't blame our defense for that.

selecting campbell was the best thing for ramsey deseal. dont you think a NFL organization would know more than you? lol. dont you think they looked at the rookie qb's next year and said we think campbell would be a better option for them? dont you think by selecting campbell would spark a fire in ramsey's ass? dont you think that if ramsey pouts about the pick then gibbs gets the personality of his starter and then will know ramsey isnt our guy? either way we win.

and how do you know that our wr corps is degressed? has the season started yet? and how do you know our o line is upgraded? has the season started yet? you dont know deseal the paper champ. dont say anything unless you have proof or state them as opinions. thanks


Tough to light a fire under a guy's ass when you draft a 3 year project.

Perhaps Ramsey pouted because he wanted WR and line help, which is what we all know we needed.

I have a question for everyone, forget what Gibbs did in the past and treat him like a brand new coach who has accomplished nothing, then let's hear the evaluation of him pertaining to last season alone and this past draft, I think a lot of the posts will be much different when you remove Gibbs's mystique and evaluate him objectivly.

Amen, Offiss. I don't feel we should judge him on what happened in the 80s today. The two era should be seperate. Did he do amazing things in the 80s that changed the game? Yes he did! Is it the same NFL. No it's not.

Hey Schneed - last time I checked the Texans are doing an amazing job with personel and they had more wins than us. Not bad for an expansion team.

In all do respect, Gibbs hasen't earned it in his own mind, he has insisted time and again that what's in the past is in the past, this is a fresh start and he has to earn that respect all over again, he will be judged by what he does now not from what he has done in the past.

I have a question for everyone, forget what Gibbs did in the past and treat him like a brand new coach who has accomplished nothing, then let's hear the evaluation of him pertaining to last season alone and this past draft, I think a lot of the posts will be much different when you remove Gibbs's mystique and evaluate him objectivly.

This question may be better suited for it's own thread.

First of all, of course Gibbs is going to say that. Anybody who knows about coach Gibbs knows he's going to say that. He's about the most humble guy you've ever seen. What's he going to say: "I deserve extra consideration and patience because I won 3 rings for this franchise!"? Come on, that's what us fans are here for. To defend and support the coach who was at the helm for the only thing resembling a dynasty this team has ever known.

Sorry, but he's not a rookie coach. You can't strip away his prior accomplishments and judge him. That'd be like Brian Billick going to the 49ers this year, finishing 6-10, and then judging him as a terrible coach based solely on one year's performance. Just doesn't make sense to me. With Gibbs comes a stellar record and uncontroverted success. Even non-Redskins fans I've talked to don't judge Joe Gibbs without first seeing the three rings on his fingers. I swear he gets more respect around the rest of the NFL than he does from certain people in this forum.

It's the old chicken or the egg debate...

Some people think we didn't go downfield last year simply because Gibbs choose not to. Personally I find that a little hard to believe and I think there are a multitude of reasons behind the scenes that aren't always very obvious.

In Gibbs first go round, he was always a deep strike guy. Rypien used to throw bombs all over the place. So why would he all of a sudden pull in the reins and shorten the field? Could it have been due to some other circumstances like a shaky OL and Gibbs' adjustment period to today's attacking-style NFL defenses?

How about a new system and the adjustment period that goes along with that, especially for the QBs. How about our WRs? Gardner isn't a serious deep threat, and Coles toe has obviously effected his game. We can argue all we want whether the WRs have been upgraded, but if you're talking about pure speed, then yes we did upgrade with Moss and Patten.

I won't deny Gibbs himself was also to blame, but at the same time there isn't another coach I trust more to fix this offense. Gibbs will get it done, if he doesn't it won't be for a lack of effort... and that's a lot more than we can say about you know who.