Zone blocking

Right, and barreling into the pile is why we got White and Nemo.

We want changes in personnel not formations.
Our O-line is suffering.

Yeah. Where have you been Aprius? OL is straight. But hey, if you're a fan of roster turnover so be it. :oink:

Sounds kind of like a joke... Of COURSE we want changes in formations. Those old two WR sets just don't cut it anymore.

I'm with TAFKAS, gotta show Gibbs some more respect. He started his first stint off 0-5 and won the Super Bowl the next year. He started this stint off rough, and now let's see where we go. No need to diss the coach without giving him enough of a chance. It takes time to purge the crappy attitude that has existed on this team for so long.

Redskins P: I'm being a cock because we zone blocked last year, it worked, and we abandoned it. Gibbs still has to prove he can coach in this era, can he do it, I think so. He's a great coach, it just may be time to bring in an offensive mind because his offense isn't doing anything. I'd also like to point to the fact that even with crazy schemes such as Chad Morton on Strahan as you suggested, still put up more PPG than Gibbs.

As far as personel, our WR position (and TE, but Royal is forming up nicely) is really the only position lacking. I feel our line is very solid with Samuels, Rabach, Jansen, and Thomas. Dockery is still young and has shown flashes of playing very good football. Here's a novel idea, let them play together for a while. Let's also remember that when there are 2-3 more guys in the box then we have linemen it doesn't matter if we have an all-star team blocking it'll still be hard to get 4/4.5 YPC.

This team needs to make leaps and bounds offensively to be a contender. I hope they can do it, but we need to give Ramsey the ball and trust him, which drafting Campbell didn't exactly send that message. I want to see us based around the run as much as anyone, but until our passing game is respected, which the Shotgun is a good start, our offense will continue to sputter.

Comparing Gibbs of the 80s to coaches of the modern era of football is apples and oranges. He did great things in a different NFL, and I think he can do the same. He's a good leader, guys follow him and work hard for him. The only problem I have with him is his playcalling, schemes, and clock management. He improved upon one of those over the season. If he can bring back an offense that dominated even half of what he had in his first era, we'll be a playoff team again, but I'm not going to turn an ignorant eye to the fact that I haven't seen anything to say we're going to make a big splash. Some people prefer to preach on the positive all day long, I like to look at what's wrong with the team and deal with it instead of ignore it. Like with all coaches, he has three years in my mind.

Yes, I liked Spurrier, but do you remember all the times I said that he needed to update his staff with NFL people and change his schemes? Get a better RB and give him the ball 10-15 more times a game? I guess comments like that get forgotten.

Oh, by the way, Charley Casserly of the Texans said he's LOVE to have Spurrier as a coach after he left (got fired) here.

Bowen sucks. I'm willing to bet he won't be starting this year! We can't live in the past. Gibbs' first year back was bad. Let's hope his second year is as good as those we reminisce about.

Schneed - I give him a chance, but does that mean I should ignore everything I don't agree with for three years and blow sunshine up his ass while we manage 150 yards of total offense in a game, which is Gibbs responsibility? If you blame it on talent, we had a decent upgrade to the line, but a pretty big degrade to our WR core. We'll see.

Schneed - I give him a chance, but does that mean I should ignore everything I don't agree with for three years and blow sunshine up his ass while we manage 150 yards of total offense in a game, which is Gibbs responsibility? If you blame it on talent, we had a decent upgrade to the line, but a pretty big degrade to our WR core. We'll see.

OK Daseal, fair enough. But I maintain that it takes a while to get a team's act together, it's not an overnight transformation (especially with O-line play). So if you're going to criticize Gibbs in his first season for his failures, then you have to be first in line to eat your words if he turns it around. I think that he earned the right to a little patience from the fans, given what he did for us in the '80's.

Redskins P: I'm being a cock because we zone blocked last year, it worked, and we abandoned it. Gibbs still has to prove he can coach in this era, can he do it, I think so. He's a great coach, it just may be time to bring in an offensive mind because his offense isn't doing anything. I'd also like to point to the fact that even with crazy schemes such as Chad Morton on Strahan as you suggested, still put up more PPG than Gibbs.

As far as personel, our WR position (and TE, but Royal is forming up nicely) is really the only position lacking. I feel our line is very solid with Samuels, Rabach, Jansen, and Thomas. Dockery is still young and has shown flashes of playing very good football. Here's a novel idea, let them play together for a while. Let's also remember that when there are 2-3 more guys in the box then we have linemen it doesn't matter if we have an all-star team blocking it'll still be hard to get 4/4.5 YPC.

This team needs to make leaps and bounds offensively to be a contender. I hope they can do it, but we need to give Ramsey the ball and trust him, which drafting Campbell didn't exactly send that message. I want to see us based around the run as much as anyone, but until our passing game is respected, which the Shotgun is a good start, our offense will continue to sputter.

Comparing Gibbs of the 80s to coaches of the modern era of football is apples and oranges. He did great things in a different NFL, and I think he can do the same. He's a good leader, guys follow him and work hard for him. The only problem I have with him is his playcalling, schemes, and clock management. He improved upon one of those over the season. If he can bring back an offense that dominated even half of what he had in his first era, we'll be a playoff team again, but I'm not going to turn an ignorant eye to the fact that I haven't seen anything to say we're going to make a big splash. Some people prefer to preach on the positive all day long, I like to look at what's wrong with the team and deal with it instead of ignore it. Like with all coaches, he has three years in my mind.

Yes, I liked Spurrier, but do you remember all the times I said that he needed to update his staff with NFL people and change his schemes? Get a better RB and give him the ball 10-15 more times a game? I guess comments like that get forgotten.

Oh, by the way, Charley Casserly of the Texans said he's LOVE to have Spurrier as a coach after he left (got fired) here.

The problem last year was the lack of a vertical passing game, simple as that. Why didn't PR get the ball downfield, Daseal? Was it because Gibbs and Co didn't send everybody deep last year, or was it because the WRs couldn't separate on any route that required them to run more than 10 yards downfield? In what way was the WR corps downgraded?

You're right, not having unrelenting optimism doesn't mean you're not a fan, but having unrelenting pessimism sure does make you look like an ass.

Redskins P: I'm being a cock because we zone blocked last year, it worked, and we abandoned it. Gibbs still has to prove he can coach in this era, can he do it, I think so. He's a great coach, it just may be time to bring in an offensive mind because his offense isn't doing anything. I'd also like to point to the fact that even with crazy schemes such as Chad Morton on Strahan as you suggested, still put up more PPG than Gibbs.

As far as personel, our WR position (and TE, but Royal is forming up nicely) is really the only position lacking. I feel our line is very solid with Samuels, Rabach, Jansen, and Thomas. Dockery is still young and has shown flashes of playing very good football. Here's a novel idea, let them play together for a while. Let's also remember that when there are 2-3 more guys in the box then we have linemen it doesn't matter if we have an all-star team blocking it'll still be hard to get 4/4.5 YPC.

This team needs to make leaps and bounds offensively to be a contender. I hope they can do it, but we need to give Ramsey the ball and trust him, which drafting Campbell didn't exactly send that message. I want to see us based around the run as much as anyone, but until our passing game is respected, which the Shotgun is a good start, our offense will continue to sputter.

Comparing Gibbs of the 80s to coaches of the modern era of football is apples and oranges. He did great things in a different NFL, and I think he can do the same. He's a good leader, guys follow him and work hard for him. The only problem I have with him is his playcalling, schemes, and clock management. He improved upon one of those over the season. If he can bring back an offense that dominated even half of what he had in his first era, we'll be a playoff team again, but I'm not going to turn an ignorant eye to the fact that I haven't seen anything to say we're going to make a big splash. Some people prefer to preach on the positive all day long, I like to look at what's wrong with the team and deal with it instead of ignore it. Like with all coaches, he has three years in my mind.

Yes, I liked Spurrier, but do you remember all the times I said that he needed to update his staff with NFL people and change his schemes? Get a better RB and give him the ball 10-15 more times a game? I guess comments like that get forgotten.

Oh, by the way, Charley Casserly of the Texans said he's LOVE to have Spurrier as a coach after he left (got fired) here.


I agree with 95 percent of what you are saying......except liking anything about Spurrier. His discipline and the way we played was disgusting, but I will agree we put up a lot more points......if I could go out on a limb and say that GEORGE EDWARDS was more of a problem Spurrier's final year than Spurrier himself. Edwards had some pretty good talent and we had the 25th ranked D that year.................anyway.........I agree with you on Gibbs offense!

Hey did anyone see on draft day when Jansen was being interviewed with that DORK Trent Green (who I would still like to have) and jansen stated that we were running a "1992 offense." That tells you something doesn't it??