Plusses and Minuses vs. Lions

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sdskinsfan2001
08-21-2015, 11:46 AM
To me that pic says it all.Listening to ESPN 980 on the way to work,they were only putting 1 sack on the off line,the other 2 he had rec's open.
For all the people that want to believe its not VY2's fault,can you find me one football analyst,ex-qb,anybody that still thinks he's any good?
Those warm fuzzy memories from his first season are clouding a lot of peoples judgement who absolutely refuse to clean off their rose colored glasses.

Look at the chains on that picture. It was 3rd and 16. Throwing a 5 yard out wasn't going to help. He was looking down the field for more yards, personally I like that, still can't fumble though.

Chief X_Phackter
08-21-2015, 11:49 AM
strong post...but the only name which has really affected RG3 is obviously Trent. Maybe TE to an extent, but they arent known for blocking

I don't know if you could say that. I mean not having your biggest WR threat in DeSean Jackson changes what the opposing defense needs to worry about. Not having Trent creates a ripple effect along the O-line as far as communication and responsibilities go. That coupled with TEs that are still learning the offense and their own responsibilities would seem to contribute to the jail breaks we saw last night....the right side of the O-line is what it is though. They need to get better, and I believe they will.

sdskinsfan2001
08-21-2015, 11:49 AM
Ha! No way he plays 16 games

I'm a Skins fan, what I Want and what actually happens are never close lol. But I can dream.

sdskinsfan2001
08-21-2015, 11:55 AM
2-0 because of back ups. Good teams don't give a hoot about winning preseason games.

"You play to win the game"

Herm Edwards

Rather be 2-0 with lots of work to do than 0-2 with lots of work to do. And I want our backups to be better than our opponents we will need a lot of them at some point.

CRedskinsRule
08-21-2015, 11:56 AM
Look at the chains on that picture. It was 3rd and 16. Throwing a 5 yard out wasn't going to help. He was looking down the field for more yards, personally I like that, still can't fumble though.

This goes to him being ordinary, vs a superstar. The ordinary middle pack qb throws it to one of those 3 guys and lets them take a shot. The superstar runs. You want to be the superstar don't fumble the ball as you start to run untouched. You want to be ordinary throw to the guy you think has the best chance to make a play. You want to be better then KC, throw a deep pass to a guy past the chains where only he can make a play on it.

You want to be out of the NFL fumble the ball at the 9 yd line then lay on the ground for 5 minutes while your body aches. I'm not saying he wasn't injured or was faking, or that I even have a clue about how bad he was feeling and in what way, but I am saying you want to be the best then barring broken bones/ACL/MCL type injuries you get up, you shake off the play, get off the field and get checked.

sdskinsfan2001
08-21-2015, 12:02 PM
This goes to him being ordinary, vs a superstar. The ordinary middle pack qb throws it to one of those 3 guys and lets them take a shot. The superstar runs. You want to be the superstar don't fumble the ball as you start to run untouched. You want to be ordinary throw to the guy you think has the best chance to make a play. You want to be better then KC, throw a deep pass to a guy past the chains where only he can make a play on it.

You want to be out of the NFL fumble the ball at the 9 yd line then lay on the ground for 5 minutes while your body aches. I'm not saying he wasn't injured or was faking, or that I even have a clue about how bad he was feeling and in what way, but I am saying you want to be the best then barring broken bones/ACL/MCL type injuries you get up, you shake off the play, get off the field and get checked.


Yeah, he wasn't going to get the 1st down running either. I like looking down the field first for a big play, then taking the shorter route, running wasn't necessarily a good option. But you need to have some time in protection to actually take a shot down field. Didn't get much of that last night.

htownskinfan
08-21-2015, 12:03 PM
Was Cousins or McCoy playing against #1's?

I dont know if either one of them were but since you posted this and Ive been listening to the radio,I've heard people say it was the same people on defense and offense when Colt took over.
I'm sure VY2 wont play next week so we wont be able to evaluate him,but I would bet the line doesnt have the same problems next week.

Just heard on the radio Griff concuss not that bad,maybe he'll play next week,hope so,he needs the reps

skinsfan69
08-21-2015, 12:04 PM
Who is satisfied?

Personally I just don't think he can be properly evaluated when the OL was such a major problem.

Even on quick drops he was getting hit.

How can you say that when he fumbled twice when there was no reason to? Sorry but when he's fumbled probably over 30 times in his career you have to evaluate two fumbles in one quarter of play.

Even when BS got backed into him he has to be able to see/feel that and either slide or just take the sack. But DO NOT turn around and run backwards. He's still doing that in year 4. Inexcusable.

JoeRedskin
08-21-2015, 12:04 PM
Coming in the middle here ... but, was at the game. Came away feeling like neither Jay nor RGIII is close to what I had hoped they would be.

The more I thought about that, the deeper and more depressed I got.

Ruhskins
08-21-2015, 12:04 PM
Another issue that I had with the team last night is the lack of adjustment once they saw that the first-team offensive line was getting pounded. Where were the screen passes, possible read-option, and quick/short slants?

This team needs to stop depending solely on QB play; and learn to adjust when the o-line is not being effective. Focus more on the run, and make the passing game complimentary to the run. This should be happening, regardless of who's back there at QB.

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