Republican nominee for President


Hog1
07-22-2016, 06:36 PM
You forgot War on Police which is certainly a thing now.

What is bolded is the key to your issues in the second paragraph. Look at the cost to educate the kid in those DEMOCRATE run cities with all the violence I listed above.

There is American tax money being spent by poverty pimps in these areas who aren't doing their job...little accountability. Teacher unions, city administrators, local clergy, social welfare programs, community service boards, after school programs, Urban Housing programs...the list goes on and on. These communities that squander my tax money. I say no more. Im tired of ineffective policies. The federal, state, and local government pump money into these areas with little return. Im tired of the complaining, its never enough. There needs to be some accountability.

All look at the most poverty ridden areas in the country...Its not a fact violence is in all impoverished communities.

Wait now...let's not be to hasty
We're like 19 in the world on education, right? So we dropped a few spots....??? # 20 WISHES they were us!!!!
BTW...we'll need some more edu-cash to hold that 19 spot...comrade

NC_Skins
07-22-2016, 07:24 PM
You forgot War on Police which is certainly a thing now.

:rolleyes:

There is no war on police. People wanting cops held accountable isn't a war on the police. It's called justice. Continuing to ignore the blatant issues and crimes will lead into more issues.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/video-texas-officer-says-blacks-violent-tendencies-230242581.html?ref=gs

Guys like this should be in jail and not serving as a cop. Most likely nothing will happen to this guy. The fact he's still employed tells you as much.

What is bolded is the key to your issues in the second paragraph. Look at the cost to educate the kid in those DEMOCRATE run cities with all the violence I listed above.

The cost to educate a kid in the ghetto doesn't cost any more to educate a kid in the suburbs. In fact, many of the poverty stricken schools don't get the funding they desperately need. Also, it's hard to keep/recruit teachers that want to teach in those areas as well.

There is American tax money being spent by poverty pimps in these areas who aren't doing their job...little accountability. Teacher unions, city administrators, local clergy, social welfare programs, community service boards, after school programs, Urban Housing programs...the list goes on and on. These communities that squander my tax money. I say no more. Im tired of ineffective policies. The federal, state, and local government pump money into these areas with little return. Im tired of the complaining, its never enough. There needs to be some accountability.

Well, if you are bitching about the educational system still, you are preaching to the choir about how ineffective it is. You can thank GWB for the "no child left behind" gem which tied school funding to these asinine tests. What in the hell do you think was going to happen? Not only did GWB fuck up the middle east and our debt, but he wrecked our educational system as well.

Also, I swear to god Chico, if you mention common core, I'm going to slap the stupid out of you. :spank: Common core isn't a federal mandated thing, it was devised by the states and instituted by the states. This is also another stupid ass educational failure. If you already knew this, then you are ahead of most people.

Until the issue of poverty is addressed, the violence will continue. I don't think there is a single simple solution out there, and quite frankly, a lot of help and support is going to have to come from those very communities as well. It's going to continue being a vicious cycle until it gets worked out. The main problem is, nobody gives a flying fuck about poor black people. Many policies (see drug war) are aimed at keeping them exactly where they are. Putting loads of hurdles in a man's path means he has more obstacles to stumble over. Couple that with media portraying these people being the main reason for the downfall of America. They act as if they're some sort of drag on the finances, when much of welfare doesn't even hit 10% of our budget.

You want to start seeing who the drain on the country is, start adding up all the taxes the .001% are evading with tax loop holes and off-shore accounts. Add up all the corporate welfare handed out to oil companies and other industries. Add up all the taxes that huge corporations are avoiding paying by using loopholes and off shore accounts. I guarantee you, it'll dwarf that welfare number on the budget graph. So let's take some of that money, pump it back into our economy and better paying jobs and help get people out of poverty.

All look at the most poverty ridden areas in the country...Its not a fact violence is in all impoverished communities.

First off, I NEVER said that violence is in ALL impoverished communities. I said that violence and poverty are directly related in the grand scheme of things. I dare you to point me out one middle or upper class neighbor full of violent crime. Now find out every single violent crime-ridden area and tell me what the poverty level is. If it isn't poor, I'll send you a 6 pack of your choice.

NC_Skins
07-22-2016, 07:27 PM
I think this says a lot about the GOP lately. When a ex-KKK leader (David Duke) is proclaiming his time is now, you know it's gone to shit.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ex-kkk-leader-david-duke-says-plans-run-153047572--election.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=fb

NC_Skins
07-22-2016, 07:33 PM
news and notes from today's safer world:

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/looks-russia-purposefully-bombed-used-192732759.html


At least 3 dead in shooting at Munich shopping center (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/07/22/reports-shooting-munich-shopping-center/87439922/)

Homicide Watch Chicago | Mark every death. Remember every victim. Follow every case. (http://homicides.suntimes.com/)



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/07/22/russian-elites-are-more-militaristic-expansionist-and-anti-american-than-theyve-been-in-years-this-new-study-shows/


You forgot one. You know, the one where we blow up a bunch of innocent civilians.


U.S.-backed airstrike against Islamic State kills dozens of civilians in Syria, activists say - LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-syria-airstrike-deaths-20160720-snap-story.html)

Chico23231
07-22-2016, 08:42 PM
You forgot one. You know, the one where we blow up a bunch of innocent civilians.


U.S.-backed airstrike against Islamic State kills dozens of civilians in Syria, activists say - LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-syria-airstrike-deaths-20160720-snap-story.html)

We are at war...guess what, this shit happens. How many innocent have Assad killed, how about Isis, how about Russia? fuck. What don't we understand here. Should we let folks commit genocide and film it and say, oh that's just peachy?

punch it in
07-22-2016, 09:33 PM
Not sure how we got this far down the rabbit hole. I was just tossing out the point his speech was filled with a lot of fear mongering, which it was and plenty of news outlets are making the same point this morning.

And I refuted the fact that we aren't safer now than we were 4 or 8 years ago, sorry but the overall numbers support that. Violent crime has been on the decline since 91 and an occasional uptick does not mean we're in a death spiral. I certainly never discounted the fact violence is a major issue in some places or said that everything is fine and dandy. But again, big picture violent crime has been tending down for quite some time.

Trump painted a very dark picture last night and as usual used a very broad brush. He's tapped into people's fears very well... fear of crime, terrorism, immigrants, etc. And of course he has all the answers to fix it.

Sadly there are a lot of small minded people out there eating this up hook line and sinker.



Preach brother.....

NC_Skins
07-22-2016, 09:37 PM
We are at war...guess what, this shit happens. How many innocent have Assad killed, how about Isis, how about Russia? fuck. What don't we understand here. Should we let folks commit genocide and film it and say, oh that's just peachy?


No...no we are not.

You do realize they mistook the target and didn't even kill any ISIS people.

punch it in
07-22-2016, 10:28 PM
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Schneed10
07-23-2016, 09:04 AM
No...no we are not.

You do realize they mistook the target and didn't even kill any ISIS people.

So we're not at war, but we have two carrier groups launching flights every two minutes, 24/7, delivering air strikes in Syria and Iraq. One carrier group in the Persian Gulf, another in the Mediterranean.

And... We're not at war.

You're a moron, bro. The days of two governments declaring war on one another are gone now that we're in the nuclear age. Wars are fought guerrilla style by crazed lunatics who tout their religious right to kill in the name of their God. Obama may be avoiding a ground engagement but we are definitely fighting.

I'm completely uninterested in any semantics as to what constitutes a war and what doesn't. We're fighting ISIS and you're dumb.

Hog1
07-23-2016, 10:04 AM
So we're not at war, but we have two carrier groups launching flights every two minutes, 24/7, delivering air strikes in Syria and Iraq. One carrier group in the Persian Gulf, another in the Mediterranean.

And... We're not at war.

You're a moron, bro. The days of two governments declaring war on one another are gone now that we're in the nuclear age. Wars are fought guerrilla style by crazed lunatics who tout their religious right to kill in the name of their God. Obama may be avoiding a ground engagement but we are definitely fighting.

I'm completely uninterested in any semantics as to what constitutes a war and what doesn't. We're fighting ISIS and you're dumb.

My next tat.......lol

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