Republican nominee for President


MTK
03-02-2016, 10:38 AM
While I get what your saying...you could easily do this with zealous Obama supporters as well.


Except what has Obama ever said that could be confused with what Hitler said?

MTK
03-02-2016, 10:40 AM
I have a little mixed feelings over the Trump and Bernie support. My obvious feeling, both would be bad for the country. But when I see such outsiders getting a lot of support across the country, it does give me hope that folks outside the typical politician can win support without political machines.



I think that's actually very encouraging.







When we are dealing with Trump and Bernie this fact is widely overlooked by our fuckin jackass media...while they rather get soundbites like supporters saying dumb thing...the fact Bernie and Trump are self funding or getting support off small donations is quite effing amazing. But that doesn't get enough "clicks" I guess.


Bernie is raising a shit ton of $$.

That Guy
03-02-2016, 01:51 PM
Your a jackass with that statement. Revolutionzied that? fuckin please

yes, jackass, he kind of did. if you can't bother to read, that's a you problem. getting contributions from 3.95 million different donors in one cycle isn't exactly common. he also didn't take money from PACs or registered lobbyists, though he did take a lot of money from big donors. (some quotes)

According to the Campaign Finance Institute analysis, 55,755 people gave more than $200 to the Obama campaign in the first six months of this year.
That is at least double the number of donors for every other candidate — Republican or Democrat — except for Clinton, who had 36,307 donors.
During the same six-month period in 2003, President Bush had 19,289 donors who’d given more than $200, and Kerry had 9,862, the institute found.
Yet those figures only scratch the surface of Obama’s strength. His campaign says — and other camps don’t dispute — that its total number of donors as of June 30 was 258,000.
That means about 202,000 people gave him less than $200 in the first six months of this year.
Small change? Think again. According to campaign financial disclosure reports, Clinton raised $4 million from donations under $200, and Romney reported $3 million.
Edwards’ small checks amounted to $5 million and Republican front-runner Rudy Giuliani gathered less than a million from the little guys.
In contrast, Obama raised $16.4 million, or 29 percent, of his record-breaking second-quarter total of $57 million from those small donors


Read more: Small donors rewrite fundraising handbook - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2007/09/small-donors-rewrite-fundraising-handbook-006014#ixzz41lxzTWx0)

Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt said in an e-mail that the campaign had more than 3.95 million donors, and "91% of our contributions were in amounts of $100 or less. … There's no doubt that small-dollar contributors played a critical and unprecedented role" in Obama's victory.

The study said Obama brought in a total $638 million, the most ever raised in a political campaign, compared with $206 million by McCain, who accepted $84.1 million in taxpayer financing for the general election. Obama reported 580,000 donors who gave more than $200.

Donors giving $200 or less need not be disclosed, but the difference between the number of donors provided by the Obama campaign and the number reported in federal election records shows there were about 3.4 million of them.

That Guy
03-02-2016, 02:18 PM
the ISIS thing is a result of a number of problems:

1) involving ourselves in a war under false pretenses (iraq was not a real threat to the US, and whatever threat it posed was less dangerous than the current situation).
2) assigning bremer to run things with 0 middle east experience and letting him make bad decisions like
3) telling the entire security and governing apparatus of the country they were not only fired but they would never have a part in running the new iraq (these were the guys that actually knew how to keep the lights on and fight people).

--now you've got 500,000 well trained, unemployed, angry iraqi veterans with nothing to do, a lot of which joined militias and caused problems until the surge where they were put back on the payroll, until they stopped getting paid, when they started causing problems again.

4) appointing an exiled sectarian guy as the head of the country, who immediately starts running kill squads and excluding sunni's from any kind of leadership role, regardless of qualifications.

5) the iraqis voted in a non sectarian head in 2010, but he was unable to form a majority governing coalition, and obama kind of bucked their constitutional process and left maliki in charge, who kept up with sectarian policies and drove the country right over the cliff.

sunni militias formed in response to the shia militias that are part of iraqi's security forces. they welcomed isis at the time, because they saw america as siding with the shia groups that were killing them.

3) was probably bush's biggest mistake, 5 was obama's. they both made terrible foreign policy decisions.


now we have a situation where we're trying to leverage the shia fundamentalists groups that have infiltrated the entire government security force against the sunni fundamentalists in ISIS. it doesn't matter who wins, we'll still have a country full of fundamentalists fully armed with US weapons. we're literally giving billions of dollars to iraqi's who are fighting under the direction of tehran right now. it makes no sense.

Chico23231
03-15-2016, 07:42 PM
What a disaster for Rubio. What a flipping disaster. Who in their right mind would vote for trump.

Hog, did you vote today?

Hog1
03-15-2016, 08:37 PM
What a disaster for Rubio. What a flipping disaster. Who in their right mind would vote for trump.

Hog, did you vote today?

I did indeed...late from work, but in time. By the time I got there, I was like third in line.
Where the hell does Rubio go from here? Damn, don't carry your own state? Rough...

JoeRedskin
03-15-2016, 09:17 PM
Rational conservative thought in America is dead.

... and, as a whole, we are worse off because of it.

MTK
03-15-2016, 09:22 PM
Rubio was going nowhere for a while. Losing your own state says it all.

kct1975
03-15-2016, 09:50 PM
Rubio was going nowhere for a while. Losing your own state says it all.
Agreed!

Chico23231
03-15-2016, 10:02 PM
Rubio was going nowhere for a while. Losing your own state says it all.

Fear and anger > optimism and rational

The voter...

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