Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015


kct1975
08-26-2015, 01:07 PM
If you can't see a 6'5" 300 pound opponent coming straight for you in time to side step to make him miss (Like old slow Peyton Manning or Tom Brady)
or minimize the hit you never will.

Actually "pocket presence" and what I would call "football instincts" are mostly in your DNA you either have them or don't, you don't improve them
much with practice...

I am afraid RG3 is missing some natural instincts needed to succeed as an NFL
QB...

Exactly! [emoji106]

irish
08-26-2015, 01:09 PM
If you can't see a 6'5" 300 pound opponent coming straight for you in time to side step to make him miss (Like old slow Peyton Manning or Tom Brady)
or minimize the hit you never will.

Actually "pocket presence" and what I would call "football instincts" are mostly in your DNA you either have them or don't, you don't improve them
much with practice. Think of someone who you would consider a lifetime bad driver, someone who hits pot holes, road junk and critters with regularity, even though they have been driving for decades. Under the same road conditions you spot a ground hog running across the road 1/4 mile ahead.

Hate to use myself as an example in the late 70's early 80's I struggled to start at linebacker at a D3 college. I had measurables that a lot of high NFL picks don't have today. I had a 3.88 GPA in High School and 3.75 GPA in college. Yet my football I.Q. was too low to even register and I played all the way back to 5th grade flag football. I paid attention at practice and teammates tried to tutor me after practice. No one bit on fakes or tackled the guy without the ball more than me. I was missing something I could not acquire.

I am afraid RG3 is missing some natural instincts needed to succeed as an NFL
QB. He is like the bad driver that is always running over or into things.

I think RG3 has football instincts but they are not the kind of instincts that make for an elite NFL QB. In college he could work without a playbook and rely on instinct to run and throw and play at a high level. That doesnt work in the pros where a QB cant just improvise and rely on his superior talent since everyone has superior talent. The bottom line is, RG3's skill set is not a good fit for an NFL QB.

kct1975
08-26-2015, 01:20 PM
I think RG3 has football instincts but they are not the kind of instincts that make for an elite NFL QB. In college he could work without a playbook and rely on instinct to run and throw and play at a high level. That doesnt work in the pros where a QB cant just improvise and rely on his superior talent since everyone has superior talent. The bottom line is, RG3's skill set is not a good fit for an NFL QB.
Well, maybe RG3 can be successful in the CFL, since it is a more wide open game.

irish
08-26-2015, 01:41 PM
Well, maybe RG3 can be successful in the CFL, since it is a more wide open game.

I dont know, its 3 down football so passing is even more important in the CFL than it is in the NFL.

htownskinfan
08-26-2015, 02:03 PM
Excellent breakdown!

The points made made in this article, and the points made in a few other article posted, about RG3 not moving around in the pocket enough, all go back to what I, and others have said...

It looks like RG3 has lost his confidence.

Basically, it seems that RG3 "thinks too much" when he takes the snap and drops back.

My opinion, as to why he gets sacked so much is...

1. He focuses too much on the primary target, and the secondary targets,down field.

He doesn't seem to be aware of what is going on around him. Which is one of the reasons that he doesn't seem to move to the left or right to avoid the rush.

2. As the linked article points out, he doesn't seem to have enough faith in the offensive plays to stick with the play as-called, and is too ready to 'check-down'. Also RG3 seems to have lost faith in his ability to 'thread-the-needle'

So, IMHO, it seems that the problems that RG3 has are mostly confidence related.

Unfortunately, I have seen that kind of thing before, with players like David Woodley, Derrick Carr, ect.

I think you mean David Carr,although Derrick might get there soon enough

kct1975
08-26-2015, 06:16 PM
I think you mean David Carr,although Derrick might get there soon enough
Yup...I did mean David Carr....although you are right about Derrick Carr

punch it in
08-26-2015, 07:14 PM
Thanks for posting - nice to hear something positive in this thread.


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What do you expect in a thread about RG-3? To a man I think everyone here wants to post great things about him for obvious reasons - we are all Redskins fans. Unfortunately we can only talk about what we see and it has been ugly. If I thought that posting positive vibes for Griff would help him be a better qb id be rah rah rah-ing all over the place! Lol

kct1975
08-26-2015, 07:15 PM
What do you expect in a thread about RG-3? To a man I think everyone here wants to post great things about him for obvious reasons - we are all Redskins fans. Unfortunately we can only talk about what we see and it has been ugly. If I thought that posting positive vibes for Griff would help him be a better qb id be rah rah rah-ing all over the place! Lol
Well Said! [emoji106]

Flyer97
08-26-2015, 07:40 PM
I was a homer all the way til the Zorn debacle. After that, I just became a total cynic, then after the McNabb and Shanny/RG III garbage I got to the point that I was seriously considering just dropping the team. It is very hard to see the positive side of things when you get a continuous stream of BS thrown your way. I hope Scotty M and the end of this RG III drama will exorcise the demons that Snyder's lunacy has begotten us!!!!

Flyer97
08-26-2015, 07:46 PM
I would trade Griffin now for whatever we could get..I am not sure there is a team in the NFL the he could be the number 2 QB for..who would it be??..who wants the drama and the injuries..you have to figure that into it. Right now if Rglll was cut outright and we were not on the hook for his salary the Redskins would be in a much better place ..

You aren't going to get squat for him. You think scouts are going to see any positives if he can't stay on the field at all? The Skins are tied with the Raiders for being the most dysfunctional franchise in the NFL, and do you think somebody is going to want a QB that can't make it on the Skins?

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