rocnrik
08-24-2015, 07:32 PM
cousins is so inconsistent dude. get off the cousins wagon. if RG cant stay healthy and perform we wont be any good. cousins is a career backup mark my words. highly inconsistent. we learned last year vs NYG he doesn't make reads he just slings to the primary of jays playcall dude. so some games he may sling for 400 but hes just dropping and throwing with no read. take a look at that, I almost never see him work thru his progression at all.
I will say in my opinion only(that aint worth much)..that in 3 years from now Cousins will still be in league playing and RGlll will be distant memory..in fact i do not believe that there is one team in the league that would trade a 5th round pick for RGlll …i believe that RGlll will not last 3 games into reg season..do i like bashing Him…NO but I have seen enough! funny there are a lot of ex players and coaches around the league saying this…Brian Mitchell tells it like it is..period! RGlll talent is his athletic ability he was great his first year before all the injuries. they are trying to mold him into something he is not..there lies the issue. he is to gimpy to do what he does best and to stubborn to change, that equals bad QB play no matter what OL you are behind..great thing about Football is we will all get to watch how this unfolds..
Flyer97
08-24-2015, 07:40 PM
Cousins will get his shot by week 6 in my opinion, then we will see if he is the real deal. I am not going to get on Kirk's bandwagon at all till I see some improvement over a period of say 5-6 games. Michigan State QBs usually make great backups in the NFL, but are not starting material. Scotty might just go for a QB in 2016, but I wish he would strengthen the offensive line first before he drafts another QB.
rocnrik
08-24-2015, 07:53 PM
What do you guys think about Zach Mettenberger? possible somebody we could trade for??
Flyer97
08-24-2015, 07:53 PM
You and I both know that ain't gonna happen. RGIII has been annointed from above to be the starter and apparently fair competition is not to be allowed.
Robert is Mr. Snyder's golden boy(marketing scheme), as well as the most athletic QB of the 3 on the roster. Coupled with the fact of the price we paid to acquire him, the organization rather play out the sad tragedy that is probably going to unfold when Robert, gets hurt. If he gets hurt the organization can save some face and move on without admitting he was a total bust.
Alvin Walton
08-24-2015, 07:56 PM
What do you guys think about Zach Mettenberger? possible somebody we could trade for??
Hes no better than what we have in our backup barn.
I'm willing to wait for cuts and or next years draft to refill the QB position.
Lets not burn anymore draft picks for this year.
Flyer97
08-24-2015, 07:57 PM
What do you guys think about Zach Mettenberger? possible somebody we could trade for??
Personally, like I have stated before, I don't think we should even entertain acquiring a top QB before we rebuild the line. After Trent goes, we have a bunch of scrubs to deal with. I would rebuild the line next season then draft a QB in 2017. We need new scouting dept folks.
Flyer97
08-24-2015, 08:00 PM
I'm fine with this, but these are some of the issues in doing so.
1) How can you tell 50+ players they have to earn their starting spot and allow one guy to be given via silver platter? You'll lose the locker room and trust from players immediately.
2) How long do you allow him to start if no major signs of progression go on? This is another way you'll lose the locker room. Sacrificing the team to benefit the development of one guy.
3) His option year is guaranteed for injury. Do you allow him to play the 2nd half of the season knowing a major injury will put you on the hook for 16mil next year?
I agree with the principle of it, but I'm not sure how you can get the team to buy into it. Hell, they had problems buying into last year, which is a good reason why we were 4-12.
Gruden is banking on him not being upright for long. Looking at the schedule, if Robert lasts past week 5-6 it will be a miracle.
NC_Skins
08-24-2015, 08:36 PM
Unfortunately, anyway you look at it the poor guy is doomed. First of all most of us I think can agree that Robert was indeed a systems QB out of Baylor. Systems QBs in Div IA are not really being prepped for the pros. Leinart from USC is the best example by far. Second of all, this kid was really overhyped. Yes he was an extremely good athlete, but the hype he received was out of this world. I thought the Carr, Harrington, then Leinart and Young hype jobs were over the top, but they don't hold a candle to what the media did to hype up RGIII. This kid didn't stand a chance of living up to it. Even his ROY season couldn't totally match the hype. This not coming close to living up to that hype is the source of the "hating". On top of the hype, and the fact he wasn't really groomed for the NFL, he got drafted by a mess of an organization, that didn't know anything about building a real contender. As we saw this past Thursday night, our line without Trent sucks, and let's be honest Trent gets banged up often. Even with Trent in there, it is an average line at best. In fact, Trent is the only true starter we have on our O line. The rest are nothing more than second stringers thrown out there due to FO incompetence of the last decade. This fact alone almost guarantees that Robert will only survive through week 5 only by the grace of the Almighty. If Suh and co come in real hungry he might not last past week 1. Couple the fact that the o line is horribly outclassed and the fact that RGIII really hasn't shown enough improvement thus far in the preseason, I don't think he is going to be upright past week 5. IF I was Scotty M, I also wouldn't draft a QB in 2016, but do some great scouting for more offensive linemen in the first two rounds. Any new rook we get is still going to get killed with the boobs we have on our line. Shore up the offensive line before we go for another young gun. We don't need to ruin more young QBs like Patrick and now Robert because of wrong schemes/bad offensive lines.
The offensive line is a lot better than what you are giving credit for. Kirk had 8 sacks in 6 games last year as opposed to 33 in 7 games by Robert. The OL is fine. Is it the best? Absolutely not, but it's enough to make a 6th round RB look like a star the past 3 years. Also, our line is rated better than the Patriots as well.
Flyer97
08-24-2015, 08:49 PM
The offensive line is a lot better than what you are giving credit for. Kirk had 8 sacks in 6 games last year as opposed to 33 in 7 games by Robert. The OL is fine. Is it the best? Absolutely not, but it's enough to make a 6th round RB look like a star the past 3 years. Also, our line is rated better than the Patriots as well.
Didn't look so hot at home on Thursday night. Why was it so utterly dominated? The Lions D is good, but they totally made our line look inept and unprepared. Are the conspiracy folks right in that they were bad intentionally to send Robert a message? I know Robert has some blame for him being treated like a rag doll, but the line did suck bad! Even if the line does shore up some come week 1 against the Dolphins I am not sure Robert is going to stay healthy for long.
Bucket
08-24-2015, 08:55 PM
Stop spreading your toxicity. I swear people should be banned for saying stupid shit like "Jay is planning on Robert being injured"
If you honestly believe a football coach wants a QB hurt so he can play another makes you insane.