SolidSnake84
08-23-2015, 08:34 PM
I know Gruden went on record before the injury saying that only injury would change their starting QB, not performance or ineffectiveness...But i wonder if that is someone who was relaying that to Gruden to say. I wonder deep down if Gruden really thinks RG3 can win or is he just hoping somehow that they find a way to win with him so he can keep his job....
KI Skins Fan
08-23-2015, 11:02 PM
I know Gruden went on record before the injury saying that only injury would change their starting QB, not performance or ineffectiveness...But i wonder if that is someone who was relaying that to Gruden to say. I wonder deep down if Gruden really thinks RG3 can win or is he just hoping somehow that they find a way to win with him so he can keep his job....
Are you sure about that? That just doesn't sound reasonable to me.
Buffalo Bob
08-23-2015, 11:36 PM
Seen some posts about Cooley's analysis. Here is the analysis of the analysis:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/08/23/chris-cooley-film-shows-griffin-bears-some-responsibility-for-thursday-drubbing/
I feel vindicated, as I said before Robert has not mastered the art of side stepping, in the pocket he has zero mobility. Defensive coordinators have caught up with athletic quarterbacks and worse than that the athleticism Robert relied on in his rookie season is long gone because of injuries. It is real simple, he either evolves and acquires skills he never needed or used before or
he is done. So far he has shown zero ability to re-invent himself.
30gut
08-24-2015, 06:10 AM
Which is what?
He would have to improve to run read option as well as Nick Foles did last year.Not sure if serious.
30gut
08-24-2015, 06:16 AM
Seen some posts about Cooley's analysis. Here is the analysis of the analysis:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/08/23/chris-cooley-film-shows-griffin-bears-some-responsibility-for-thursday-drubbing/Cooley's breakdown have an odd defensive take, especially since Cooley's first take was the OL didn't good enough. Now his take seems like Griffin should have moved in the pocket like superman and everything would have been fine.
And that stuff about not using bootlegs vs Lions because of wide 9? Kirk and Colt ran multiple bootlegs.
Thankfully Gruden seems more aware of the pass protection and the gameplan/playcallilng issues with the 1st unit. (hint don't expect a dude Willie Smith that only started 1 game at OT last year to be an adequate fill in for Trent Williams).
KI Skins Fan
08-24-2015, 07:26 AM
Cooley's breakdown have an odd defensive take, especially since Cooley's first take was the OL didn't good enough. Now his take seems like Griffin should have moved in the pocket like superman and everything would have been fine.
And that stuff about not using bootlegs vs Lions because of wide 9? Kirk and Colt ran multiple bootlegs.
Thankfully Gruden seems more aware of the pass protection and the gameplan/playcallilng issues with the 1st unit. (hint don't expect a dude Willie Smith that only started 1 game at OT last year to be an adequate fill in for Trent Williams).
I'm no RGIII apologist, but people are starting to get ridiculous in their criticisms of his play. There is a major point and a minor point here. The major point is that the line played very poorly in pass protection. They gave Robert no chance on some plays and little chance on some others. The minor point is that on some plays Robert could have bought a little more time if he had moved better in the pocket.
To review:
Major Point: The line sucked!
Minor Point: RGIII could have helped himself a little on some plays.
irish
08-24-2015, 07:45 AM
It didnt seem like KC and CM had as much O Line issues as RG but they seem to get the ball out faster. It seems to me that RG is lost in the pocket. He has no pocket presence and he seems to struggle with where he should go with the ball. Hopefully this will improve but I'm not betting on it.
It does seem like that to me as well. It also seems to me that the Offense as a whole plays better....the moment Robert leaves the game.
Robert must.....scutch over a little here, scutch over a little there in the pocket area when some room is available to buy time and.....Try to minimize some of the hits he takes. He stands there like a tree and gets...spanked! SHIT Robert
rocnrik
08-24-2015, 10:42 AM
it was the same ol that was blocking for McCoy and cousins..i will give it against some backups..that is why i would love to see Cousins against starters..and RGlll against backups..would that not be more of a real test of where they are at at qb??
KI Skins Fan
08-24-2015, 10:50 AM
it was the same ol that was blocking for McCoy and cousins..i will give it against some backups..that is why i would love to see Cousins against starters..and RGlll against backups..would that not be more of a real test of where they are at at qb??
You and I both know that ain't gonna happen. RGIII has been annointed from above to be the starter and apparently fair competition is not to be allowed.