Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015

It's rough sledding, but I'm good with it............

The problem is if you keep Griffin in there, and he's still struggles, the players start bitching and Gruden will lose the locker room. We have emotional wr's as it is. This almost happened to Gibbs back in 87 with Doug and Jay.

Still have to remember it's pre season. But on some plays it looked like the same old Griffin.

I know the mob doesn't want to hear it but you can't pull the plug on Griffin this early. Unless he can't play due to injury you have to give him a real shot and see how things play out into the season. This is the spot we're in... buckle up.


I halfway agree with this.I believe you can pull Griff,theres no open competition for the job and there needs to be.I agree with you that they will not pull the plug unless he's injured or his play and our record is so bad that they are finally convinced he's not going to turn it around.

Where do you get the impression from that I'm adamant he can be developed into a pocket passer?

Well u would hate it rg3 left so I would assume u think he can be an nfl qb

Griffin may very well be done as the starting QB here sooner rather then later. And personally I think its a certainty at some point.

BUTits not going (knowing this staff 'should not' is probably more accurate) to stem from his play in the Lions game. Using the Lions game as referendum on Griffin is the popular groupthink overreaction. But to me it appears to be based more on perception/emotion more then actual football. The general rush from some fans/media to point to this "game" as proof of their negative belief is imo clearly out of balance.

I mean seriously, a referendum after 5 pass attempts? Never mind the game situations (Kurt Warner diagnoses why Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III is struggling - NFL Videos (http://www.nfl.com/videos/washington-redskins/0ap3000000514192/Kurt-Warner-diagnoses-why-RGIII-is-struggling)) but 5 passes and Griffin is done? C'mon, lets be serious.

It's hard for us Skins fans to face this one hard truth: we don't have a quarterback....Tough reality to swallow, but that's it.It might be hard for some. And to be clear its not over yet, the whole fanbase is trying to hit that inside straight baby! But anyone who looks at the big picture should have been prepared for the distinct possibility that we don't have QB.

..IF YOU WERE THE HEAD COACH AND YOUR FUTURE WAS RIDING ON IT ..WHO WOULD YOU GO WITH AT QB??..lets here it ..Good question.

I have to answer the question 2 different ways. One as HC Jay Gruden and another as Generic HC.

If I were Jay I would start Kirk Cousins or Colt McCoy. And I wouldn't have waited for this training camp. I would have made my intentions clear prior to this offseason. I believe right or wrong any organization needs to be of 1 accord, 1 vision. And to that end I would have spoken to Scott, Bruce and Dan and told them "Look, you hired because of the offense I ran in Cinci. I think Kirk/Colt and the weapons we have we can have a very good offense. I thought Robert could be a fit in the offense I intend to run but I was wrong*; with Robert I cannot run my offense. But we have a chance here to move forward and have a very successful offense with Kirk/Colt."

Now if I was the HC I would start Griffin. 100%. But I would have taken a completely different approach then Jay and this franchise took. We would not be running a West Coast Offense variant. We would be in year 2 of a spread zone read offense.

*I don't believe Jay every really gave it a chance but that is beside the point

Griffin may very well be done as the starting QB here sooner rather then later. And personally I think its a certainty at some point.

BUTits not going (knowing this staff 'should not' is probably more accurate) to stem from his play in the Lions game. Using the Lions game as referendum on Griffin is the popular groupthink overreaction. But to me it appears to be based more on perception/emotion more then actual football. The general rush from some fans/media to point to this "game" as proof of their negative belief is imo clearly out of balance.

I mean seriously, a referendum after 5 pass attempts? Never mind the game situations (Kurt Warner diagnoses why Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III is struggling - NFL Videos (http://www.nfl.com/videos/washington-redskins/0ap3000000514192/Kurt-Warner-diagnoses-why-RGIII-is-struggling)) but 5 passes and Griffin is done? C'mon, lets be serious.

Good point.

It's definitely knee-jerk time right now. I still say the Detroit game was mostly on the OL and it's hard to take much real value from it. Yes the fumbles are 100% on him, but when you're getting hit repeatedly in 3 seconds or less, that's the OL's problem.

After only 9 career NFL starts for KC, I am not ready to say either RG3 or start over with all new QB'S. Is that what you are saying? Frankly I have seen enough of RG3, he is not going to be a pro style offense QB. It is time to give a long look at KC worh the starters.

the problem is that the OL vs the lions is probably close to what the OL will be vs the dolphiins (from a performance perspective). I'm pretty sure the org isn't going to pull him before game 4 barring injury, but i much rather we pull griffin for performance, since that'll give us 16mill more to work with next year.

maybe he still turns it around, but i haven't seen any improvement yet. he has on okay OL, and great rb/wrs. I'd like to see more production and less terrible decisions (like trying to scramble on 3rd and 16 near your own goal line).