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kct1975 08-22-2015, 04:39 PM Again, how can you say that about KC after 9 starts? Meanwhile you're saying Griffin needs more time after 36?? This makes 0 sense to me.
At this point we are way past the draft pick investment talk. That is sunken cost. Griffin gets 3-4 weeks to start the season.
Agree!
At this point, all I want is for the Redskins to look competent and win.
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kct1975 08-22-2015, 04:41 PM Yeah no shit! That makes 0 sense to me also.Also I cant believe anyone doesnt believe Dan is 100 percent behind naming VY2 the starter,I mean who the fck else would it be? We know Gruden doesnt want him,I dont see why it would be Scott,does Bruce have that much power?
Exactly!
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Yeah no shit! That makes 0 sense to me also.Also I cant believe anyone doesnt believe Dan is 100 percent behind naming VY2 the starter,I mean who the fck else would it be? We know Gruden doesnt want him,I dont see why it would be Scott,does Bruce have that much power?
WTF's wrong with you? Scott in his press conferences....stated...in plain language. "Robert has To much potential....To much upside (not to mention TO much invested) to NOT BE absolutely sure he cannot do it before we kick him to the curb" paraphrasing a bit
AND....KC or Colt may prove to be the man (God how I wish they would). But that Sure As Hell has not been the case to date....
You watched last year right?
SirLK26 08-22-2015, 05:09 PM The problem is most of you are looking at this through the eyes of a fan who wants to win right away, so of course you want to play the backups when the starter struggles. That's understandable, but Scot is looking at the big picture. I think he realizes that this team is not going to win with any of our QBs anytime soon, so why wouldn't he play the guy that has had the most success and is the most physically talented? In the meantime, while he finds out if Griffin can be effective again, he is working on building up the talent around the QB position.
Maybe you think Cousins or McCoy should be that guy, but McCloughan and Jay are around these guys all the time. Is it that hard to believe that Griffin really is the best option? I know Keim has said he has no issue with the QB depth chart after viewing some of the camp practices.
The notion that Snyder is the reason Griffin is starting is very unlikely to me. McCloughan does not come across as a fool, I doubt he would have come here if he thought there was even a tiny chance Snyder would meddle like that.
rocnrik 08-22-2015, 06:41 PM Oh I agree 100% that Robert gets every chance to prove he can be the man…but when is enough..How many games does he have to stink it up before somebody says enough already??? my question was IF RGlll stinks it up at Ravens what then? the last pre season game means nothing..starters don't really play..so we start regular season with RGlll in a game at home that we could win with average QB play…why not Let Cousins or McCoy start at Ravens ..see what they got..we know what Robert has. You guys Seem smart to me and most all of you make great points..IF YOU WERE THE HEAD COACH AND YOUR FUTURE WAS RIDING ON IT ..WHO WOULD YOU GO WITH AT QB??..lets here it ..
kct1975 08-22-2015, 06:58 PM Oh I agree 100% that Robert gets every chance to prove he can be the man…but when is enough..How many games does he have to stink it up before somebody says enough already??? my question was IF RGlll stinks it up at Ravens what then? the last pre season game means nothing..starters don't really play..so we start regular season with RGlll in a game at home that we could win with average QB play…why not Let Cousins or McCoy start at Ravens ..see what they got..we know what Robert has. You guys Seem smart to me and most all of you make great points..IF YOU WERE THE HEAD COACH AND YOUR FUTURE WAS RIDING ON IT ..WHO WOULD YOU GO WITH AT QB??..lets here it ..
I agree with everything that you said!
I will take your challenge...
Personally, right now I would have to say Colt McCoy is the Quarterback that I would go with on September 13. And his back-up would be Kirk Cousins.
I know that I am probability going to get blasted for my choice, but of the three quarterback on the Redskins roster right now Colt McCoy is the Quarterback that seems the most professional and confident. Also the offensive seems to run the most smoothly with Colt McCoy at quarterback.
Okay, so I said my piece, what do others think?
Bishop Hammer 08-22-2015, 07:24 PM Again, how can you say that about KC after 9 starts? Meanwhile you're saying Griffin needs more time after 36?? This makes 0 sense to me.
At this point we are way past the draft pick investment talk. That is sunken cost. Griffin gets 3-4 weeks to start the season.
Thats something that drives me bollocks too! Some fans are more committed to the name on the back of the jersey instead of the front, sometimes.
KI Skins Fan 08-22-2015, 07:31 PM I cannot personal speak for KI Skins Fan, but my understanding is that he is proving that Dan Synder likes to control everything.
Dan's controlling nature and his love for RG3 are the reasons why I and several other on this site believe that no matter what RG3 may do wrong or KC/Colt do right, the starting Quarterback on September 13 will be RG3.
You got my point.
OnceWeWereKings 08-22-2015, 07:36 PM Cousins. Even though I doubt we have any qb on our roster that isn't, at maximum, a backup.
htownskinfan 08-22-2015, 07:52 PM WTF's wrong with you? Scott in his press conferences....stated...in plain language. "Robert has To much potential....To much upside (not to mention TO much invested) to NOT BE absolutely sure he cannot do it before we kick him to the curb" paraphrasing a bit
AND....KC or Colt may prove to be the man (God how I wish they would). But that Sure As Hell has not been the case to date....
You watched last year right?
Yeah,did you? Have you seen this preseason?
McCoy, Cousins continue to out-play RG3
Posted by Michael David Smith on August 21, 2015, 3:43 PM EDT
Kirk Cousins, Rashad Ross
AP
If Washington’s quarterback depth chart were determined by on-field performance, Robert Griffin III would be firmly entrenched at third string.
Although coach Jay Gruden insisted after Thursday’s preseason game against the Lions that Griffin will remain the starter, that game showed once again what we’ve seen throughout Gruden’s tenure as Washington’s coach: Colt McCoy and Kirk Cousins are simply playing better football than Griffin.
So far this preseason, McCoy has a 131.6 passer rating and has led Washington’s offense on three touchdown drives. Cousins has a 118.3 passer rating and has also led Washington’s offense on three touchdown drives. Griffin has a 54.6 passer rating, and Washington has yet to score a touchdown with Griffin on the field.
You can argue that the preseason is too small a sample size to draw any conclusions, and that Griffin is playing against better defensive players than Cousins and McCoy are. But Griffin’s sub-par performance goes beyond just this year’s preseason. Last year Griffin started seven games, Cousins started five and McCoy started four. Washington wasn’t a particularly good team no matter who was starting, but according to ESPN’s QBR system, which combines both statistics and film study into one number on a 0-100 scale, Griffin was easily the worst of the three. McCoy had a 46.9 QBR, Cousins had a 46.5 QBR and Griffin had a 33.5 QBR. The Football Outsiders DVOA system, which uses play-by-play data to assess quarterbacks, similarly had Griffin as by far the worst of Washington’s three quarterbacks.
Given all that, it’s surprising that Gruden is so adamant that Griffin will continue to start. Perhaps Gruden is still intrigued by the great promise Griffin showed in his rookie season. Perhaps Dan Snyder has told Gruden to give Griffin a chance. Perhaps Gruden just doesn’t think McCoy and Cousins are legitimate NFL starters.
But at some point, on-field results have to matter. And Griffin simply isn’t getting results.
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