Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015


SmootSmack
08-05-2015, 03:31 PM
He said that and then some.

Gruden Had to Convince Snyder for ‘Several Hours’ to Bench RG3 « CBS DC (http://washington.cbslocal.com/2015/08/03/gruden-had-to-convince-snyder-for-several-hours-to-bench-rg3/)

According to Russell, Gruden had to convince Snyder “for several hours” last fall that benching Griffin was the proper call, suggesting the owner was very much a part of football decision-making.

“He had to, from what I was told, convince by going into Dan Snyder’s office for several hours last year in late November, to convince Dan why he needed to bench Robert, why he needed to take him out, why he was hurting the game,” Russell said.

Around the time Griffin was benched, after Week 12, Russell says is when a rumor surfaced inside Redskins Park that team owner Daniel Snyder had called Gruden’s agent to complain his client was “stealing money.”

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Hopefully the buck begins and ends with Scot. Gruden should have to answer to Scot and Scot alone.

All true (well I've only heard the agent part from Chris so I can't confirm that)

As for RG3's quotes. Maybe a bit passive-aggressive. And it's certainly something he needs to work on. The idea of playing within the system. I know it's got to be hard from going to from "changing the position" to "game manager" But those are the cards he and the team have been dealt now

JoeRedskin
08-05-2015, 04:47 PM
... The idea of playing within the system. I know it's got to be hard from going to from "changing the position" to "game manager" But those are the cards he and the team have been dealt now

Again, if he can be patient, and show he can manage a game, then he can start expanding on that.

I guess I thought one of his initial gripes was that he wanted to be thought of as "QB" not a "running QB" and that the style used to create the "changing the position" QB of his rookie year was not to his liking because of that, that it was stunting his growth as a passing QB.

Baby steps. Make the right reads, consistently. Keep the chains moving, consistently. Show you can do the little things that game changing QB's do without thinking, consistently. If you do, there will be plenty of times and places for you to rise above the "ordinary."

I have no doubt he has the talent to do so. I just am concerned that he lacks the maturity, patience, and humility to do so.


So far, however, so very, very good.

artmonkforhallofamein07
08-05-2015, 05:13 PM
Seems to me that Russel is trying to stir the pot a bit since we have been hearing only positives this time around. We can't have that in DC it must be a circus. Can't let guys just work, let's create some stuff to float around. Why does this story need to come out now? We had all off season to hear that story, no lets wait till guys are trying to work in camp.

JoeRedskin
08-05-2015, 05:43 PM
^^ hatters gotta hat.

over the mountain
08-05-2015, 06:00 PM
Seems to me that Russel is trying to stir the pot a bit since we have been hearing only positives this time around. We can't have that in DC it must be a circus. Can't let guys just work, let's create some stuff to float around. Why does this story need to come out now? We had all off season to hear that story, no lets wait till guys are trying to work in camp.

russell worked for the skins or at least their radio station up until a few weeks ago.

timing wise it gives him something to talk about on other radio stations, get paid a little something for appearances until he finds another contract .. smart temp move for him. i have no idea how radio works though.

artmonkforhallofamein07
08-05-2015, 07:18 PM
russell worked for the skins or at least their radio station up until a few weeks ago.

timing wise it gives him something to talk about on other radio stations, get paid a little something for appearances until he finds another contract .. smart temp move for him. i have no idea how radio works though.

I guess... Keeps him relevant I guess. Hopefully RG III proves all the damn people wrong and goes out plays well and makes plays to help us win. I just want to win and Colt McCoy isn't going to get that done.

NYCskinfan82
08-05-2015, 07:30 PM
Seems to me that Russel is trying to stir the pot a bit since we have been hearing only positives this time around. We can't have that in DC it must be a circus. Can't let guys just work, let's create some stuff to float around. Why does this story need to come out now? We had all off season to hear that story, no lets wait till guys are trying to work in camp.

Sure sounds like it.

30gut
08-05-2015, 08:16 PM
Washington Redskins' Robert Griffin III makes positive strides in camp - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/18658/redskins-qb-rg-iii-makes-positive-strides-early-in-camp)Interesting article. Its good to hear Griffin doing well and the staff contributing (Matt C) and the staff being upbeat, both on and off the record. All 3 are welcome changes from last year.

There was a cross-your-finger optimism about Griffin entering camp and after five days the coaches have been pleased about what he’s shown and the direction he’s headed. It’s far different than at this time a year ago when whispers started circulating about displeasure with Griffin. This shows that the staff is learning from last year. Jay and McVay's frustration with Griffin early in training camp last was a sign to me that trouble lurked. First, I was taken aback that after all the off record talk Shanny was involved in I didn't expect the new regime to be involved with off the record negativity regarding Griffin. Second, I consider being frustrated with developing a young QB par for the course of being a coach thus whining about it off the record to the media imho was a sign of immaturity and a sign of being overwhelmed with the numerous hats of a rookie HC with a rookie OC and no QB coach.

the coaches have tweaked what they’re doing, and the presence of quarterbacks coach Matt Cavanaugh already is helping....Having Cavanaugh has helped make the quarterbacks’ reads more defined. In the past, they would keep it basic -- if the primary option isn’t there, they would spout off where they would go next and then next. Do it all in one line. It was a cliffs notes version of what Cavanaugh asked them to do: memorize a graph of each pass play. It took time to adjust in the spring, but it has helped define the reads better. It’s like having an owner’s manual of each play in your head.The coaches adapting is great news to hear and I wish it would have happened last year but I'm glad its happening this year. I also love the fact that we not only hired a QB coach but hired one as accomplished as Cavanaugh, who arguably is as accomplished an OC as Jay, a SB winning OC.

The article has lots of good insight that lends towards optimism, especially for someone like me who sees Griffin's success as linked towards Jay's growth as a HC and it appears there are signs pointing in the right direction from a coaching stand point. Now, I know this will make some uncomfortable but hopefully all the rhetoric and changes we've been hearing about the offensive philosophy is true and can help build Jay's level of faith and support for Griffin. Time will tell and even though its only week 1 of training camp...so far so good.

artmonkforhallofamein07
08-05-2015, 09:18 PM
Interesting article. Its good to hear Griffin doing well and the staff contributing (Matt C) and the staff being upbeat, both on and off the record. All 3 are welcome changes from last year.

This shows that the staff is learning from last year. Jay and McVay's frustration with Griffin early in training camp last was a sign to me that trouble lurked. First, I was taken aback that after all the off record talk Shanny was involved in I didn't expect the new regime to be involved with off the record negativity regarding Griffin. Second, I consider being frustrated with developing a young QB par for the course of being a coach thus whining about it off the record to the media imho was a sign of immaturity and a sign of being overwhelmed with the numerous hats of a rookie HC with a rookie OC and no QB coach.

The coaches adapting is great news to hear and I wish it would have happened last year but I'm glad its happening this year. I also love the fact that we not only hired a QB coach but hired one as accomplished as Cavanaugh, who arguably is as accomplished an OC as Jay, a SB winning OC.

The article has lots of good insight that lends towards optimism, especially for someone like me who sees Griffin's success as linked towards Jay's growth as a HC and it appears there are signs pointing in the right direction from a coaching stand point. Now, I know this will make some uncomfortable but hopefully all the rhetoric and changes we've been hearing about the offensive philosophy is true and can help build Jay's level of faith and support for Griffin. Time will tell and even though its only week 1 of training camp...so far so good.

What I like about the article is Kiem doesn't usually sugar coat things, if he seeing good things then the coaches are and if nothing else they will know if they want to win they have to go with the best option to do so on the roster. To me RG III is it, we all know what we will get with Cousins and McCoy. Ints with the first and no long ball with the latter.

Establish a running game and get him moving and he should be successful.

NC_Skins
08-05-2015, 09:47 PM
All true (well I've only heard the agent part from Chris so I can't confirm that)

Let's go back to this.

That my qualify as a "fact" to you but it doesn't even come close to factual to me and I'm guessing it doesn't for most people.

And again even IF your "fact" were true it should be disconcerting that your new HC clearly was never on board with developing the franchise QB. You think Jay would have been hired if his plan consisted of moving on from Griffin prior to the season even starting?

Still think lil Danny isn't making decisions on the field as well?



The fact is football assessment seldom lends itself to simple soundbite analysis. There is rarely 1 "reason" for the success or failure of a play, player, coaching staff or season.

Was Griffin's inexperience in a rhythm drop back passing offense part of his struggles? Sure.

But the playcalling, game plan and coaching also played a role in his struggles. After all Griffin was even less experienced as rookie but was better as a rhythm drop back passer in that system then now. Heck, no QB was less 'prp-style' then Cam and look what he did as a rookie.

First off, I never said that his in-experience was the ONLY issue at hand. I said it was a fact that Griffin struggled due to his in-experience with a pro-style offense, not because of Jay's faith in RG. If Robert performed bad because he was worried about Jay's faith in him, it would say a lot about him and he probably shouldn't be in the NFL. No, Robert is arrogant as noted by his attitude and why two coaches have had difficulty trying to get through to him.

Also, to mention Cam's rookie season is laughable. You do realize they ran a read option type offense like we did right? It wasn't a pro-style in the slightest. Also, you've notice Cam's yards and attempts have been dropping steadily the last 3 years with last year being his worst year ever. His transition hasn't turned the corner yet I can assure you.

One last thing, how can you deem play calling an issue? Do you know what defenses were called? Do you know the counter to them? Who's the say the players didn't execute the play while the call was the right one? I'm not saying it didn't play an issue but do you really know for sure or guessing?

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