Another Bad Character

They're both idiots, no matter how you cut it. Just because one guy crashed and another didn't, it doesn't mean they should be treated differently.

They're both putting their futures, their teammates' chances of winning Super Bowls, and the fans' desire to have a Super Bowl winner at risk.

One could say Big Ben is risking even more than Winslow, since the Steelers' Super Bowl hopes are more heavily dependent on Ben than the Browns' hopes are on Winslow.

IMO, riding a motorbike safely with all safety equipment, following all speed limits, and following all traffic signals, even doing everything as you're supposed to, it's still a stupid thing to do. Why drive a motorbike when you can drive a car. I just don't get it. I guess some people find motorcycles fun, but man, there are other fun things to do. Now that view is extreme on my part, so I'm not going to push that on people. But since Big Ben wasn't wearing a helmet, I gotta rip into him. That's just flat out retarded.

It's his choice to be making but how freakin retard of an excuse is: the helmet law was amended so because it doesn't say I have too, I won't wear a helmet!!! I thought he did a heck of a job as a rookie to come in and lead that team like he did last year, but this definitely counts as a couple notches against his intelligence.

Both players are making or made dumb choices but yet one person still has the choice of learning from the other's mistake cuz Winslow's injury isn't just screwing up his season but it also screws up the season of his teammates as well.

I think for Roethlisberger to argue that he doesn't have to wear a helmet because there is no law requiring it is rather lame. This is why we have laws I guess, for those who are too ignorant to act sensibly on their own. I mean would he really step on the football field without a helmet if the league said it was fine? Wonder how long that would last

However, I don't know where the media spin is in all this

A very interesting article in the Cleveland Plains-Dealer (http://www.cleveland.com/browns/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/1115458472326800.xml) about Winslow and his fascination with bikes. If what is being reported is true, Winslow showed dizzyingly poor judgement. This goes beyond "going 30 in a parking lot learning to ride".

I have been racing and riding all my life. I can personally (after many brush's with disaster) attest that people who don't wear helmuts are just plain stupid, and don't value their head. Unfortunately, when you figure it out, it's way late! It IS the difference between life and not!!!

A very interesting article in the Cleveland Plains-Dealer (http://www.cleveland.com/browns/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/1115458472326800.xml) about Winslow and his fascination with bikes. If what is being reported is true, Winslow showed dizzyingly poor judgement. This goes beyond "going 30 in a parking lot learning to ride".

Chalk up another reason for me to absolutely Loathe Kellen Winslow. Terrorizing a neighborhood with kids in it by riding up and down the street 15 times doing tricks. Real mature.

I just seriously can't find one redeeming quality in the person of Kellen Winslow II. Not one.

alas. i have never seen anyone with such total disregard to his team. but he takes the cake. especially after refusing to take safety lessons. also, to all mothers out there, happy mothers day.

I hate to be the stick in the mud but, I don't care about other teams' players. :oink:

Cris Carter was on Sirius NFL Radio saying that he had the exact same crash Winslow had. Carter was in a parking lot learning how to ride a bike his wife bought him for his retirement (because he wouldn't ride one while he was under contract). Anyway, he said he did the same thing from what he had heard. However, the difference was he was retired. He said that athletes have to treat their bodies like a corporation. You have to protect it and take care of it. He said that it wasn't worth the gamble to him when he was playing, despite the fact that he always wanted one. He said he loves it and rides it all the time now, but he could see how any novice rider could crash such a powerful bike.

They don't call them donor-cycles for nothing.