30gut
05-24-2015, 06:02 AM
I dont think its a mistake.
You gotta go with a hopefully healthy Griffin for one more full year.
The rest of the team should be improved more than a little, that should have a positive affect.
We have a bunch of new coaches also, especially a quarterback coach.
If Griffin improves then its a non issue.
Besides, the June cuts could yield us a dev QB to pick up.This sounds like you are banking on the current QBs to have success; which is fine. Its actually what I hope for. But is planning around based on the best case scenario a mistake? If none of the QBs takes the reigns we're gonna start again all over with a new QB with a HC on his third year or tear it all down with new staff and new QBs.
NYCskinfan82
05-24-2015, 06:48 AM
I think McCloughan thought highly of Halliday but he flaked.
I'd rather see us establish the trenches a bit so that no matter what QB we use he'll have a fighting chance.
Well said, IMO games are won in the trenches.
NYCskinfan82
05-24-2015, 06:50 AM
I dont think its a mistake.
You gotta go with a hopefully healthy Griffin for one more full year.
The rest of the team should be improved more than a little, that should have a positive affect.
We have a bunch of new coaches also, especially a quarterback coach.
If Griffin improves then its a non issue.
Besides, the June cuts could yield us a dev QB to pick up.
Yeah that's how I see it.
NYCskinfan82
05-24-2015, 06:54 AM
Drafting a QB somewhere within our ten 2015 doesn't mean the FO can't also 'establish the trenches'.
If they thought highly of Halliday, an UDFA, as Jay's developmental QB isn't it even more of mistake to pass on other QBs for a prospect who didn't love the game enough to stick around for the 1st rookie camp?
No one knew Haliday was going to take a permanent Holiday before the first rookie camp.
Schneed10
05-24-2015, 09:32 AM
Drafting a QB somewhere within our ten 2015 doesn't mean the FO can't also 'establish the trenches'.
If they thought highly of Halliday, an UDFA, as Jay's developmental QB isn't it even more of mistake to pass on other QBs for a prospect who didn't love the game enough to stick around for the 1st rookie camp?
It's hard for me to think of it as MORE of a mistake when no draft pick was wasted.
Your question is a good one but it's just impossible to answer now. If one of our three current QBs really establishes himself this year (hopefully Griffin), then it won't be a mistake.
If they don't then we could have this discussion, it would only be a mistake if the QBs we passed on in 2015 end up looking good. Like if Petty or Hundley tear it up then yeah we will kick ourselves.
It's just too early to say. But as of right now I am a fan of our draft, we needed an attitude adjustment in the form of big nasty players to help establish an identity of toughness. I liked that every pick had toughness and competitiveness in common. At this point in time I'll take that over the (false?) hope that a new QB provides.
30gut
05-24-2015, 09:58 AM
It's hard for me to think of it as MORE of a mistake when no draft pick was wasted.
Your question is a good one but it's just impossible to answer now. If one of our three current QBs really establishes himself this year (hopefully Griffin), then it won't be a mistake.
If they don't then we could have this discussion, it would only be a mistake if the QBs we passed on in 2015 end up looking good. Like if Petty or Hundley tear it up then yeah we will kick ourselves.
It's just too early to say. But as of right now I am a fan of our draft, we needed an attitude adjustment in the form of big nasty players to help establish an identity of toughness. I liked that every pick had toughness and competitiveness in common. At this point in time I'll take that over the (false?) hope that a new QB provides.We can certainly opine on whether or not it was mistake to pass on QB. Just like you can opine that we should build the trenches. We don't have to wait to know the outcome to assess whether or not we think the plan is right.
Not having a contingency plan at QB going forward sure seems like a mistake with the state of our current QB group. Then when you add the fact that none of our QBs are under contract (2016) it sure seems like putting all our eggs into one basket.
Just as many praise the Matt Jones pick for its foresight at tge RB position why shouldn't lack of foresight at arguably the most important position on team be viewed as a mistake?
Around the league other franchise with better current QB situations drafted QBs to groom for the short/long term future. We stood pat and did not draft one. You hsay you think Halliday was their developmental guy but for me it's even more of mistake to target an UDFA as their developmental QB and therefore chose to pass over all the QBs for a prospect that they do not have. Go by your hypothesis it would mean that yes they saw the need for a developmental QB but failed to acquire one they liked.
Talking about what they should have done after the fact is nothing more then second guessing. And to be clear we had a chance to draft any QB from Grayson to Trevor Siemain.
And criticizing one FO decision does not in anyway mean that I'm anything but pleased with the overall direction of the FO.
skinsfaninok
05-24-2015, 12:23 PM
Griffin will be fine with this Line
HailGreen28
05-24-2015, 01:27 PM
The best chance to get a great QB is when you pick high. Obviously the team won't be doing well when you are able to do so.
We had a decent line, and a running game that a lot of QBs would have killed for the last couple years. Hardly anyone has 5 studs at OL. We have a HC that did very well as Cincinatti's OC.
We are ready for a good QB. Whether it's Griffin or Cousins that steps up, or we bring in someone else.
30gut
05-24-2015, 03:05 PM
...We are ready for a good QB. Whether it's Griffin or Cousins that steps up, or we bring in someone else.Agreed.
What's your take on not drafting a QB?
CRedskinsRule
05-24-2015, 03:20 PM
I believe that when the line is right, then you spend draft pick(s) on the qb. The more so when you have two potential boom/bust guys already on the roster.
So no, i don't think it was a mistake, regardless of how this year's batch of qb's do.
There will be more qbs available next year.
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