Not drafting a QB a mistake?

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Skinzman
06-10-2015, 11:34 PM
Um yeah obviously jumping a prospect up some 60 odd spots because of a run at that position is unwise. Its also something I didn't suggest. So yeah describing an obviously poor decision doesn't have anything to do with what I was saying. Its not quite a strawman but its close.

An example of adjusting a draft board at a position happened with WRs the past 2 seasons. A team might have a say a 2nd round grade on Nelson Agoholor or Kelvin Benjamin but based on how the draft played out if you didn't take them round 1 you weren't getting them.


I don't understand your point here.

The draft is fluid not static.

There are many different scenarios and situations at play that are interrelated and require different means of management. So sure sometimes Bill's idiom of 'better 1 round early then 1 pick' is the right approach for certain situations or like a Russell Wilson and many other Seattle "reaches" or sometimes waiting on a hidden gem that your scouts and coaching staff have identified undervalued is the right play as in a Alfred Morris or a Keenan Robinson.

Listening to the Seattle brain trust, they never considered themselves reaching for Wilson. They picked him where they rated him. They just consider themselves better talent evaluators than the rest, which hasnt been proven false as of yet.

The same is very possible for the 2 WRs you listed. You are basing a team reaching on pundits or your own opinion. Can you guarantee that no team had Benjamin or Agohlor as a 1st rounder, even if late in the round? You say that boards were altered the last 2 drafts based on WRs as if it were fact, then go on a story that starts with might. You present it as fact, then tell a story thats based on assumption.

30gut
06-11-2015, 07:05 AM
really, cause i've yet to see you state a name. someone else mentioned grayson, and that's been it.If you haven't been following the thread that's your issue. You are telling me to do something I've already done in this thread. Maybe if you asked instead of making, and repeating a false claim I would be more inclined to restate. But obviously by the tone of your post really not interested in a discussion, which is fine too.


if you're not going to put up, then it's probably time to stop this pointless exercise. By all means feel free stop posting if its a poontless exercise, no one is twisting your arm.

either there's someone that would be better than who we've got or there isn't.What you done here is create a false standard for draft picks. Its a fiction. No one 'knows' what will happen with any draft pick. And it kinda makes your stance disingenuous.

30gut
06-11-2015, 07:14 AM
Listening to the Seattle brain trust, they never considered themselves reaching for Wilson. They picked him where they rated him. They just consider themselves better talent evaluators than the rest, which hasnt been proven false as of yet.Your playing semantics here. Of course the team doing the picking doesn't consider their draft selection a reach, that's obvious.
Draft media have often referred to Seattle picks as 'reaches' in the past but the term 'reach' when it comes to the draft is subjective just like the term 'value' its a relative each of the 32 teams.

CRedskinsRule
06-11-2015, 01:09 PM
I think not drafting Bart Simpson was a mistake.

Sent from my S6 Edge

Ruhskins
06-11-2015, 01:27 PM
I think not drafting Bart Simpson was a mistake.

Sent from my S6 Edge

It was an ever greater mistake to miss out on Nelson Muntz
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Alvin Walton
06-11-2015, 01:41 PM
We could have drafted these three guys.
But, nooooooo....

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53Fan
06-11-2015, 04:31 PM
I'll be glad when preseason starts so we can start hitting Posters from other teams. Where's Sandandcrap Jack??!!!

That Guy
06-12-2015, 03:13 AM
If you haven't been following the thread that's your issue. You are telling me to do something I've already done in this thread. Maybe if you asked instead of making, and repeating a false claim I would be more inclined to restate. But obviously by the tone of your post really not interested in a discussion, which is fine too.


great, either show me where you cited an actual draft prospect's ame or repeat it, cause i don't see it. telling me to find something that doesn't exist is stupid.

you're obviously not interested in a discussion though, since all you seem to be capable of is deflecting instead of actually trying to move the conversation forward.

What you done here is create a false standard for draft picks. Its a fiction. No one 'knows' what will happen with any draft pick.

what you've done here is fail to recognize context. you can't predict the future? well, no s$%#. I was asking what prospect you see that has more upside than kirk cousins. cause if they don't project a ceiling or show they're better than him in 2 years, the pick would be a total waste. if they aren't starting here though, they really aren't helping us all that much - hence my position. but i have a feeling you're trying to play with context and semantics here to avoid actually having to back up your claim with any kind of observable statement that could later be proven wrong... yet again.

30gut
06-12-2015, 04:13 AM
...but i have a feeling.Sure.

HailGreen28
06-14-2015, 12:12 PM
We could have drafted these three guys.
But, nooooooo....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/bawanaal/stooges18-1.jpgWe need those guys to replace the current referees.
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They couldn't do any worse, than Hochuli, Booger, and the other refs we have now!

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