Will Jay's offense follow Scott's lead?

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30gut
05-18-2015, 05:48 PM
Jay Gruden Pass ratio: https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/passing-play-pct
Bengals
2013-57
2012-58
2011-56

Washington
2014-60% pass (#15 in the NFL)

Just for frame of reference:

Seattle: 49% pass (#31 in the NFL)
San Fran:53% pass (#26 in the NFL)
Green Bay: 56% pass (#23 in the NFL)

We've all heard the soundbites of McCloughan of his vision for the offense which he seems to bring with him from Seattle and San Fran:

“We have a similar philosophy about big guys, smart guys, tough guys. We want to be able to run the ball, be able to pound the ball and get that D-line to want to quit and understand that when you play the Washington Redskins, we’ll come at you no matter what.”

But for me when I look at Scott's vision it doesn't seem to mesh with what we know of Jay's history and tendencies. I've posted Jay play calling/game plan tendencies in regards to pass/run ratio above. Jay has been a pass focused OC and even moreso as a HC. Marvin Lewis, a decidedly defensive oriented HC was able to limit Jay's pass focus to ~57%. (in his absence they've dropped to 52% pass) But last year when Jay had total control his pass % jumped up to 60%.

I see 2 distinct offensive philosophies when I look at Jay and Scott and I wonder whether or not Jay will follow Scott's lead or will Jay maintain his offensive philosophy/tendencies?

Enough of the preamble....do you think Jay's pass ratio will drop to reflect a shift to being more run focused? And do you want it to?

(was gonna make a poll but didn't see the poll option)

Meks
05-18-2015, 06:30 PM
He did say there would be some re working of the offense, I'm hoping it includes running the ball more often and MUCH more creatively ... I was oft very tired of seeing the same stretch run 10 times a game... So, honestly I hope we change the run scheme up a bit... And run it more, if it doesn't happen? Get ready for semi similar results on that side of the ball.

Skinzman
05-18-2015, 07:00 PM
I personally think defense has a say in those ratios. San fran and Seattle have defenses that dont need an offense to score 30 points to win a game (they also have/had top running backs. Seattle having the best in the business). The GB one does surprise me though. Maybe defenses just concentrate to much on Aaron Rodgers and they are smart enough to see it. Granted Lacy is starting to come into his own. If we show defensive improvement, I think that number drops. If our defense is still bad, that number stays high.

MTK
05-18-2015, 07:09 PM
I think we'll see just how far SM's influence goes by how Jay calls plays this year.

Defensewins
05-18-2015, 08:10 PM
Last season we had a weak offensive line and even worse defense. I know nobody is implying that if we just magically changed our play calling we would have been better. But to artificially set a % of run to pass and win, you have to have start with a good talented team that is not playing from behind all the time.
When it comes to play calling % run to pass, I would rather do what works and not be predictable. To have the skill/flexibility to (hypothetically) run 60% one game and come right back the next game and pass 60% and win. Just win, be dynamic and not be predicable. i would like that.

SirLK26
05-18-2015, 09:32 PM
Jay's hiring of Callahan says a lot in my opinion. That points to a desire to get more physical and run more effectively, which Jay talked about last year even before McCloughan was hired.

I think a big part of the reason for passing so much was the lack of success running on first down. Our first-down-YPC average was 5.43, 20th in the league. I bet Gruden gets the fuzzies thinking about adding a big mauler in Scherff and a nasty versatile runner in Jones to his offense.

skinsfaninok
05-18-2015, 09:33 PM
I'd love to be a 50-50 offense but I would bet on running the ball much more

Hog1
05-18-2015, 09:42 PM
I think it will be a......real good plan on J's part to be straight up and on board with SM....
He doesn't need any..competition for the HC position

NC_Skins
05-19-2015, 12:23 AM
I think we'll see just how far SM's influence goes by how Jay calls plays this year.


Why should play calling or offense be dictated by the GM? If this is the case, maybe he needs to pick his own coach? (which I'm fine with)




That said, I think Jay is going to run a lot more this year. I think Jay (and Scott) both know that they can't rely on any of the QBs on the roster and that a solid OL and run game will carry the team a long way.

MTK
05-19-2015, 06:13 AM
Why should play calling or offense be dictated by the GM? If this is the case, maybe he needs to pick his own coach? (which I'm fine with)




That said, I think Jay is going to run a lot more this year. I think Jay (and Scott) both know that they can't rely on any of the QBs on the roster and that a solid OL and run game will carry the team a long way.

Based on the type of talent SM is adding, Gruden better use it accordingly is all. If the offensive side of the ball is shaping up to be a running team, he sure as hell better run it. It's not about SM dictating anything, I just want to see how Gruden adjusts.

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