2015 Week 9 Offensive Line Starters

I've pretty much lost all hope in McRib. He hasn't shown any sort of promise. And God help him if he shows up to training camp completely out of shape again.

I have lost hope in him too. i just listed him because he is still on the roster. But he is not a mauler-type that we want.

LT: Williams
LG: Long/Moses
C: Lich
RG: Lauvao
RT: Scherff

Don't remember what show specifically, but I heard in 980 that they believe Lauvao's best spot is at RG.

I hope this becomes a very good offensive line that can create a dominant running game, creating a team less dependent on the passing game.

If we become a run first team, a lot of pressure will be off whoever is at QB. Hopefully we can pull wins like Seattle does, where their QB only has to throw the ball 15-16 times a game.

I wondered that myself last year. Lauvao seems more of a RG than LG but we did not have someone better to play LG.
There are certain O-lineman that are incredibly better at one particular position than the others. in fact they could suck at all the other 4 positions but be really good at one.
I beginning to get the impression that is the case with Morgan Moses and the Left tackle position. At UVA he was a not so good RT, but then his senior year UVA moved him to LT and he blossomed. Last season he struggled at RT for us.
I wonder in a very hypothetical situation IF (and that is a big IF) Morgan Moses can be mentored enough and given more of a chance to play LT more that he could become a good NFL LT.

I do think Kouandjio takes out Lauvao as long as Kouandjio is healthy. I think Chester holds off Long somehow and keeps his job. I think Long will be a disappointment all said and done.

McLeRib gets cut in training camp.

What have you seen, heard, or read about Long that makes you think he will be a bust?

I haven't seen any articles talking about how he is a lock to start; but I haven't seen anything negative since his draft evaluations.

I have lost hope in him too. i just listed him because he is still on the roster. But he is not a mauler-type that we want.

didn't they trade up to get McRib, a player no one had rated as a 3rd round pick

Redskins pick SMU guard Josh LeRibeus - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/redskins-pick-smu-guard-josh-leribeus/2012/04/27/gIQAugyhmT_story.html)

No they didn't (thank goodness), and nobody had him rated that high including McRib himself.

I think Spencer Long fits with what McC is trying to build on the OL, he also has a streak of Nastiness and ornery.

Spencer Long Draft Profile – NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/spencer-long?id=2543620)

I have no idea what the line will eventually look like. Wayyyy too many variables.

What I hope it looks like is:
LT - T. Williams
LG - Kouanjdio
C - Lichtensteiger
RG - Long
RT - Scherff
Swing Tackle/First man up: Moses

If this is the starting set by the end of the year, and they are starters by merit not injury, we just went a long way to reestablishing trench dominance in a two year span. IF that group can be starters, and we extend TW so he is with us to the end of his career, we will become serious playoff contenders b/c that group can be here for a loonnggg time (relatively speaking).

Backups: Luavo (He's an average starter at best; on the other hand, he is quality relief); LeRib (as back-up Center/relief Guard); Compton (back-up swing T, mostly depth, lots of inactives).
Gone: Chester, Polumbus.

More than any other position grouping, OL is dependent on and improves with familiarity. Look at the historically great lines, they generally came together quickly, in a year or three (which is why Dallas' O-Line is particularly scary - damn them!). In 1981, the Skins drafted Mark May and Russ Grimm (two guards in the 1st and 3rd rounds respectively) and found Joe Jacoby as a UFDA (in the era of the 12 round draft). Jeff Bostic had joined the Skins in '80. Those four guys were the basis of the Hogs throughout the Skins' Super Bowl era. While it is probably too much to ask for lightning to strike twice, how sweet would it be if my top six were here as a group for the next 5-6 years and we could then plug in replacements as needed (like the Hogs did with Reggie McKenzie, Jim Lachey, Ray Brown, Ed "bubblebutt" Simmons).

Dare to dream. Dare ... to ... Dream.

What have you seen, heard, or read about Long that makes you think he will be a bust?

I haven't seen any articles talking about how he is a lock to start; but I haven't seen anything negative since his draft evaluations.

Nothing recent. I'm drawing off three things:

1) Lauvao and Chester started all last season, who both were not very good, and Long never sniffed a starting spot. Foerster said at the time that he wasn't going to just throw the rookies in there, they're making too many mistakes in practice to be trusted in games.

2) Long was overdrafted. Most draft analysts (admittedly, for what they're worth) had him graded as a 5th round prospect.

3) That was a Bruce Allen draft operation, so I immediately question anybody drafted by the team at the time, fair or unfair. Maybe Long is one of the rare exceptions, but over the last five years we've found jack squat in the lower rounds. If it were McLoughan putting his stamp of approval on it, I'd feel much different. Reputation matters.

2) Long was overdrafted. Most draft analysts (admittedly, for what they're worth) had him graded as a 5th round prospect.


Overview

Native Nebraskan. Walked on and redshirted in 2009. Did not see action in '10. Stepped into the lineup in '11, starting all 13 games at right guard. Played through a torn right meniscus in '12, starting all 14 games at RG. In '13, started the first six games at RG before tearing his right MCL against Purdue and undergoing season-ending surgery and did not work out at the NFL Scouting Combine because of it (medical exclusion). Elected not to lift at the combine because of an appendectomy. Team captain.
Analysis
Strengths
Very solidly built with a good frame. Good leg drive -- can create a push in the run game and position-sustain. Solid in pass protection -- good anchor, shadow and mirror. Good base and balance -- controls and steers defenders. Flashes some nastiness. Intense, competitive battler. Smart and instinctive. Lunchpail worker will do a lot of extras and is very ambitious and driven to succeed. Excellent weight-room strength -- can squat a small house. Good versatility -- has played inside and outside. Very tough and played much of final two seasons through knee injuries. Possessed the biggest hands of any offensive lineman at the combine.
Weaknesses
Average athlete. Is tight-ankled and heavy-legged -- lumbers to the second level. Struggled with the quickness of Minnesota's Ra'shede Hageman (though he was noticeably playing through a knee injury that required surgery and forced him to miss the rest of the season after leaving the Minnesota game). Labors to cut off the inside rush. Struggles to adjust and pick off linebackers and is not efficient pulling and trapping.
Draft Projection
Rounds 3-4
Bottom Line
Big, tough, physical, ornery blocker with starter-quality positional traits and intangible qualities. Is best in a phone booth, where he excels as a run and pass blocker, and is smart and savvy enough to contribute outside in emergency situations.

Overview

Native Nebraskan. Walked on and redshirted in 2009. Did not see action in '10. Stepped into the lineup in '11, starting all 13 games at right guard. Played through a torn right meniscus in '12, starting all 14 games at RG. In '13, started the first six games at RG before tearing his right MCL against Purdue and undergoing season-ending surgery and did not work out at the NFL Scouting Combine because of it (medical exclusion). Elected not to lift at the combine because of an appendectomy. Team captain.
Analysis
Strengths
Very solidly built with a good frame. Good leg drive -- can create a push in the run game and position-sustain. Solid in pass protection -- good anchor, shadow and mirror. Good base and balance -- controls and steers defenders. Flashes some nastiness. Intense, competitive battler. Smart and instinctive. Lunchpail worker will do a lot of extras and is very ambitious and driven to succeed. Excellent weight-room strength -- can squat a small house. Good versatility -- has played inside and outside. Very tough and played much of final two seasons through knee injuries. Possessed the biggest hands of any offensive lineman at the combine.
Weaknesses
Average athlete. Is tight-ankled and heavy-legged -- lumbers to the second level. Struggled with the quickness of Minnesota's Ra'shede Hageman (though he was noticeably playing through a knee injury that required surgery and forced him to miss the rest of the season after leaving the Minnesota game). Labors to cut off the inside rush. Struggles to adjust and pick off linebackers and is not efficient pulling and trapping.
Draft Projection
Rounds 3-4
Bottom Line
Big, tough, physical, ornery blocker with starter-quality positional traits and intangible qualities. Is best in a phone booth, where he excels as a run and pass blocker, and is smart and savvy enough to contribute outside in emergency situations.

Yeah CBS was the highest. Kiper McShay and Mayock all had him lower.