Baltimore riots

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over the mountain
05-22-2015, 12:34 PM
Yeah, I mean waste happens everywhere...but when you have the same politicians, the same insiders, from the same party, saying the same thing, making the same promises over and over in Baltimore...folks you got to change it up. The samething isn't working, doesn't everyone realize that?

Politicians, civic leaders, the police, and most important the people who reside in Baltimore all are responsible for their city. It absolutely disgusts me when the Baltimore riots were happening and cnn was interviewing a recognizable Maryland senator or congressman...I forget his name...older black man. But his fucking excuse was the federal government had cut a program...and they needed more federal help ie "money". I seriously want to punch this mf'er out. The only thing his punk ass can come up with is my fucking federal tax dollars? Fuck you u fucking irresponsible piece of shit...clean up or own fucking problem.

im guessing Elijah Cummings.

Currently the Dem rep on the Benghazi panel which is nothing more than republicans using tax payer money for their own partisan political motives.

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I read a pretty insightful article on Baltimore's collapse post industrial period. Seems pretty spot on. Around the 30-40's the industrial plants employing a ton of people closed up, so the workers and white people kinda moved out and black people moved in and bought row homes in what they thought were good solid real estate moves.

But the jobs werent there anymore, the remaining affluent white people in their white gloves and hats that once walked Lexington Market did not do so anymore bc they did not want to mix with the new black population so that further pushed the remaining white people out of those areas. im sorry if i speak so openly about racial divide here. im repeating what the article said.

fast forward 6 decades later with no job growth, crumbling infrastructure and property values that sharply declined = half of baltimore as we see it today. huge blocks of boarded up crumbling row homes with something like 46% unemployment in the bad parts. even where i live in upper fells/washington hill we have random blocks of abandoned properties.

there are a lot of great hard working people in these depreciated areas. a lot of baltimore's soul and identity are rooted in these areas.

so sad. ive stuck up for baltimore for so long but i now realize i was insulated. i lived in locust point or fells point proper. the cities issues were foreign to me. with having made the mistake of moving to a bad block this past year and the riots, im just eyes-wide-open sad.

seeing a lazy car accident atty voted States Atty is sad.

becoming aware of just how bad our local council is and the nepotism and rewarded incompetence is just so sad.

CRedskinsRule
05-22-2015, 05:52 PM
I don't live in Baltimore, and I haven't grown up around it, so I am definitely an outsider looking in. That said, on the radio this morning, the mayor made a statement that really ticked me off. It was, paraphrasing, She was grateful for President Obama's handling of a meeting to get things right, and (this is the part that aggravated me) she said that Sen Mikulsky said "this was the most intense discussion" about Baltimore she ever had been a part of.

What ticks me off is these politicians have been the ones creating the climate for the past 30 years (Mikulski specifically : Office: Senator (D-MD) since 1987
Previous office: Representative (MD 3rd District) 1977–1987) 40+ years, and somehow these discussions are going to change anything?

How do people BELIEVE this crud?

Chico23231
05-22-2015, 06:24 PM
I don't live in Baltimore, and I haven't grown up around it, so I am definitely an outsider looking in. That said, on the radio this morning, the mayor made a statement that really ticked me off. It was, paraphrasing, She was grateful for President Obama's handling of a meeting to get things right, and (this is the part that aggravated me) she said that Sen Mikulsky said "this was the most intense discussion" about Baltimore she ever had been a part of.

What ticks me off is these politicians have been the ones creating the climate for the past 30 years (Mikulski specifically : Office: Senator (D-MD) since 1987
Previous office: Representative (MD 3rd District) 1977–1987) 40+ years, and somehow these discussions are going to change anything?

How do people BELIEVE this crud?

Lotta times institutions folks blindly put their trust in (large church congregations, school boards, civic leaders, community activists) are secretly in cohoots with the business leaders, real estate holding/developers, and politicians who only care about money. So these people work behind the scenes together for personal gain. Quid pro quo folks

Folks, Matty point of the wire,is actually not far off. I've seen it in Richmond

CRedskinsRule
05-22-2015, 06:31 PM
Lotta times institutions folks blindly put their trust in (large church congregations, school boards, civic leaders, community activists) are secretly in cohoots with the business leaders, real estate holding/developers, and politicians who only care about money. So these people work behind the scenes together for personal gain. Quid pro quo folks

Folks, Matty point of the wire,is actually not far off. I've seen it in Richmond

I get it, but I don't GET it. You elect someone for 40 years, and at the end of 40 years they are telling me, we've got this covered, I'm calling BS.

Chico23231
05-22-2015, 06:45 PM
I get it, but I don't GET it. You elect someone for 40 years, and at the end of 40 years they are telling me, we've got this covered, I'm calling BS.

Well they have had it covered for 40 years right?

Another reason for term limits. Not having term limits embeds corrupt, quid pro quo behavior. From the local level to Washington. Believe me, that dog shit mayor is on the same path from the local level to the federal level.

Hog1
05-22-2015, 08:21 PM
The system is..........busted, way

HailGreen28
05-24-2015, 10:41 AM
I read a pretty insightful article on Baltimore's collapse post industrial period. Seems pretty spot on. Around the 30-40's the industrial plants employing a ton of people closed up, so the workers and white people kinda moved out and black people moved in and bought row homes in what they thought were good solid real estate moves.

But the jobs werent there anymore, the remaining affluent white people in their white gloves and hats that once walked Lexington Market did not do so anymore bc they did not want to mix with the new black population so that further pushed the remaining white people out of those areas. im sorry if i speak so openly about racial divide here. im repeating what the article said. (Bold mine) The article just discredited itself here. Why would people with money keep coming back to shop to the same places they had moved out of? Especially when those places start getting run down because the people with the best jobs, the biggest customers, also moved elsewhere? So shops start closing/changing. But no, let's blame problems with that community by accusing the people who aren't there anymore of racism! There is a city government that's supposed to use tax dollars to support areas, provide good services, infrastructure, a clean safe environment, and support local businesses in a variety of ways. And the community should support each other in this. Other cities, and lots of rural communities, do this.

Why doesn't the article mention that, instead of basically saying the place can't survive without rich white people? (With white gloves and hats and they hate black people. They must be supervillains.)

fast forward 6 decades later with no job growth, crumbling infrastructure and property values that sharply declined = half of baltimore as we see it today. huge blocks of boarded up crumbling row homes with something like 46% unemployment in the bad parts. even where i live in upper fells/washington hill we have random blocks of abandoned properties.

there are a lot of great hard working people in these depreciated areas. a lot of baltimore's soul and identity are rooted in these areas.

so sad. ive stuck up for baltimore for so long but i now realize i was insulated. i lived in locust point or fells point proper. the cities issues were foreign to me. with having made the mistake of moving to a bad block this past year and the riots, im just eyes-wide-open sad.

seeing a lazy car accident atty voted States Atty is sad.

becoming aware of just how bad our local council is and the nepotism and rewarded incompetence is just so sad.(Bold mine) No argument with the rest. And people are generally hardworking and awesome anywhere if they have a chance. Maybe city, county, and state officials should be held accountable for good jobs in the area. Or people can keep crying racism and let the place go to pot. Looks like Baltimore chose the second option with what they did and who they elected. They need to start taking the first option more seriously, whether they elect a dem, reupub, indie, whatever.

CRedskinsRule
05-24-2015, 09:30 PM
Well they have had it covered for 40 years right?

Another reason for term limits. Not having term limits embeds corrupt, quid pro quo behavior. From the local level to Washington. Believe me, that dog shit mayor is on the same path from the local level to the federal level.
Term limits move the corruption from the long term elected corrupt officials to the unelected long term bureaucrats. Somehow what's needed is an equivalent of the internal affairs police departments have that is able to shed light on the dark corners of the political structure. Term limits also can create redundant application of ineffective solutions as new people cycle through and the same shucksters peddle fake solutions.

Even more than a political internal affairs system though, is a useful educated, slightly cynical voting public. And that isn't going to happen anytime soon. So I am not holding my breath awaiting a major change to the situation.

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over the mountain
05-26-2015, 10:08 AM
im turning this into my own eff baltimore thread . .

friday night i had a juvenile rat run across my living room, right past my lady and under our fridge. i had to barricade my daughters room and our bed room, spent hours looking for the bastard but havent found him yet. hopefully he got out the same way he got in. i have to check every nook and cranny of our home every day now.

saturday i walked my daughter to the big playground in patterson bc the playground around the corner is just crap w kids doing drugs and "moms" rolling blunt and drinking liquor which they just leave as trash when they go. im over that play ground. well apparently some 13 and 14 year olds decided to go to the kids patterson park playground and curse and fight and talk about how they have all had sex with each other and who did who first and girls started fighting each other. the cursing and language was awesome.

sunday i got a parking ticket. not a big deal. my car was half legal half not. i didnt even think parking people made it as far up our neighborhood and just stayed down near fells and the bars.

today - i am heading out of the city around 8:10 am and see some police activity on the 395 bridge leading into the city (main in and out). there were some nice shiny black luxury cars with ppl out of the cars. traffic was jacked up all the way back as far as the eye could see.

on the radio they sd it was some pastor who wants to shut down traffic and it will not be business as usual until 30 mil funding for a juvenile detention center is diverted to city schools.

his tweets and photo opportunities are below. Why arent they arrested for civil disobedience or something? mosby cant allow this to keep happening. she needs to let the police ..i dont know .. police?

Protest Blocks Morning Traffic On I-95 | WBAL Radio 1090 AM (http://www.wbal.com/article/115243/40/protest-blocks-morning-traffic-on-i-95)

I love how the pastor is rolling in a new benz or escalade. not sure which one is his.

meanwhile balt city schools ARE OVER FUNDED!

No, Baltimore schools are not under-funded | WashingtonExaminer.com (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/no-baltimore-schools-are-not-under-funded/article/2564013)

i heard they shut down both sides of 395 now so you cant get out of the city. thank god i made it out right before that or i would have had to driven through the dangerous west part of baltimore which is scary as hell even for people who live in the city. im not a tourist.

Hailgreen - i probably did a poor job of summarizing the article. here it is. a good read, seems to be well researched and vetted. i did leave out that in the 80s with the burbs super malls and what not change the shopping habits as well. before the canton crossing opening a few years ago with target and old navy, we could go to walmart in convington cove (near downtown) or drive to towson or white marsh to go big store shopping.

White flight decimated Baltimore businesses long before rioters showed up – Quartz (http://qz.com/393128/white-flight-decimated-baltimore-businesses-long-before-rioters-showed-up/)

over the mountain
05-26-2015, 10:19 AM
The Baltimore Sun @baltimoresun · 33m 33 minutes ago
Among the victims of the 29 shootings reported this weekend, one was a 9-year-old boy. 9-year-old shot amid violent weekend in Baltimore - Baltimore Sun (http://bsun.md/1IXM5Tj)

29 shootings in 1 weekend?

there are only like 850k residents. the juveniles were already emboldened to walk right into oncoming traffic and dare you to honk your horn at them or ride their bikes blocking traffic or just being harassing a holes ... now the message after the protests seems to be "do what you want, the police have been told to stand down."

as a resident, it feels like Mosby and Rawlings gave the city to the deliquent juveniles who have no sense of restraint or calculation. they just mob attack tourists, snatch purses etc bc they dont think ahead. they commit acts of violence just to commit acts of violence. there is no thought to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR6Lcmhb6yU&feature=youtu.be

am i next? when i am walking w my 3 year old, do i need to act scared around these kids?

when they would step out in front of my car i would honk my horn, roll down the window and dare them. now? i honestly feel scared. i have a daughter and a bad shoulder, i just have to sit there and take it now. me, 36 year old guy needs to sit there in his car with his windows up while 14 year olds suanter through downtown like they own it. twice i had to keep my mouth shut in the past month.

maybe im being dramatic .... but something is changing in baltimore. it feels different. in a bad way.

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