With the 5th pick in the draft the Washington Redskins select...

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CRedskinsRule
04-17-2015, 06:37 PM
More picks equals more chances to hit on a starter but we shouldn't be trading too low:

The chance of a bust in the NFL draft | Datascope Analytics (http://datascopeanalytics.com/what-we-think/2012/05/01/the-chance-of-a-bust-in-the-nfl-draft)

Also why trading picks with Tampa Bay in the Goldson trade is negligible.

For people wanting more proof why Scot's the guy, this chart be da***d.

Scot McCloughan and the NFL's Best and Worst Drafting GMs - Hogs Haven (http://www.hogshaven.com/2015/3/1/8083611/scot-mccloughan-and-the-nfls-best-and-worst-drafting-gms)

Also, for those in need of draft day Kool-Aid.

KI Skins Fan
04-17-2015, 08:16 PM
^ Which year(s) is the author saying that Dan Snyder was the GM of Skins and made the draft picks?

MTK
04-17-2015, 08:34 PM
For people wanting more proof why Scot's the guy, this chart be da***d.

Scot McCloughan and the NFL's Best and Worst Drafting GMs - Hogs Haven (http://www.hogshaven.com/2015/3/1/8083611/scot-mccloughan-and-the-nfls-best-and-worst-drafting-gms)

Also, for those in need of draft day Kool-Aid.

Good breakdown.

I think it's accurate to say SM is a top 5 talent evaluator. As long as Snyder stays out of his hair (and SM's own demons stay under control) he's definitely capable of building a winner here.

CRedskinsRule
04-17-2015, 08:37 PM
^ Which year(s) is the author saying that Dan Snyder was the GM of Skins and made the draft picks?

I don't think he specified, but he pointedly said he was avoiding getting into the quagmire that has been the Skins FO

For the Redskins executives you may notice that there's some overlap with Vinny Cerrato and Dan Snyder. I am counting the entire time that both men were here as time spent as GMs, because at a minimum each of them were some part of a decision-making duo or triumvirate. The same thing goes for Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan as well. The focus of this study was not on the minutia and semantics of the Redskins' dysfunctional hierarchy.

Irrefutable
04-17-2015, 11:03 PM
a scenario I like :

Seven-round Redskins mock draft, take two - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2015/04/17/seven-round-redskins-mock-draft-take-two/?tid=pm_sports_pop)

30gut
04-18-2015, 08:27 AM
"I'm of the mindset that you a 34 defense "needs" 1 premium OLB pass rusher..."

That's not saying we need only 1 top-notch edge rusher?Huh?

Just for the sake of accuracy I'm gonna clarify this...

I'm of the mindset that you a 34 defense "needs" 1 premium OLB pass rusher and having a 2nd while nice isn't something to chase after at the expense of other positions.Notice I even put the word "needs" in quotes...yet....

2. Since when is one top-notch edge rusher enough? To which I responded:Who said having one was enough? I didn't. Reminding you that I never said that 'one top-notch edge rusher' is "enough".

On any given play in a base 34 only 1 OLB is rushing at a time. Numerous top 34 defenses have been built with having one premiere pass rushing OLB. So yeah I believe a 34 only 'needs' 1 premium OLB pass rusher but like I said its nice to have a 2nd.

I hope you understand the difference.
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I personally don't have anything against Fowler or Beasley as prospects nor as fits for this defense. Even if they're rotational players they would still provide a huge impact if they can bring the heat on 3rd downs. But I think we could find similar production from an edge rusher later in the draft.

Cooper on the other hand imho is easily the most complete WR on the time day 1. He's better at beating press, running routes and tracking the ball then Garcon and he runs a complete route tree (including routes that go inside numbers) unlike DeSean (whom I love, best deep threat in the game). Also, Coop could be the feature WR as early as 2016 when either Garcon or DeSean are both gone and Coop would cost less money to boot. I don't think there is another WR in the draft that brings the skills that Coop would bring from day 1 they only WR project that comes close for me is Nelson Agholor. Very similar skillset to Coop that also adds return ability KR/PR but isn't as polished.

Paintrain
04-21-2015, 11:27 PM
My top choices for the #5 pick:
1. Cooper - We aren't a player away from being a good team, we need to build with elite players. Cooper could be an instant and long term #1 WR in the AJ Green mold. Building with a long term vision, you grab those players when you can.
2. Beasley - While I think he eventually can become a 3 down player for at least the first couple of seasons, he will be a pass rushing/nickel specialist and excel in that role. That's not a bad thing with Kerrigan and Murphy already in place, the more pressure the better.
3. Williams - Dominant from what I've seen, not sure if he's a perfect 3-4 fit though. But like Cooper, build with elite players. If he can become part of a shutdown defensive line then I'll take it.

Irrefutable
04-22-2015, 12:05 AM
My top choices for the #5 pick:
1. Cooper - We aren't a player away from being a good team, we need to build with elite players. Cooper could be an instant and long term #1 WR in the AJ Green mold. Building with a long term vision, you grab those players when you can.
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if they take Cooper the Redskins will be spending about $25 million on wide receivers

JoeRedskin
04-22-2015, 12:24 AM
So? We can afford it this year and it sets us up for financial flexibility next year.

Next year, we either renegotiate with BOTH Garcon and Jax OR find a new WR 1/2 while trying to negotiate long term deals with Williams and Kerrigan. If we have Cooper we can let either PG or DJax go and still have two solid WR's.

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Irrefutable
04-22-2015, 10:24 AM
So? We can afford it this year and it sets us up for financial flexibility next year.

Next year, we either renegotiate with BOTH Garcon and Jax OR find a new WR 1/2 while trying to negotiate long term deals with Williams and Kerrigan. If we have Cooper we can let either PG or DJax go and still have two solid WR's.

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There are more urgent needs than WR - OL, OLB, S, DL, and TE

Next year RGIII, and Knighton either gets $$$$ or are cut/traded. The cap problems continue.

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