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BDBohnzie 05-02-2005, 11:37 AM it is definitely a make or break year for Ramsey. if he has a good year, he'll be back next season, to give Campbell that much more time to prepare himself. beyond this season and next is a crap shoot at best. Guys like Marino, Montana, Young just don't come about anymore. the closest we have now is Brady, McNabb, Manning, and Culpepper, and they aren't in the upper echelon just yet. if the Skins can get 2 good seasons out of Ramsey, and prepare Campbell for the future, then Gibbs will be set at the QB position.
If Ramsey has a crappy year, the Skins will be rebuilding once again, and will be looking for another QB to mold into a Gibbs QB while Campbell and Brunell take the reins.
firstdown 05-02-2005, 11:43 AM To clarify, Portis is the best runner by far. I'm just saying I've liked the way Betts has played even when overshadowed by a premier back like Portis.I agree and I knew what you ment in your first post.
firstdown 05-02-2005, 11:50 AM Loyal?
Didn't Ramsey have a terrible preseason? Didn't Brunell play better than Ramsey during the preseason? Gibbs even gave Ramsey a start or two in the preseason and gave him a fair /even chance at the starting position. When it was time for Ramsey to prove himself ON THE FIELD, he failed miserably this last preseason.
Loyalty has to be earned. You do not get loyalty just because you are a first round pick. IF it worked that way we would still have Heath Shuler as our starter and we would have never drafted Ramsey.I totaly agree, that was the same point I made in my post. He was given the opportunity and he just failed to make the most of it. I just hope he can prove himself this year and solidify the starting roll and we don't have to have these threeds about who our starting QB is for the next six to seven years. We as a team need to have a solid satrter and leader to build around. Not this who sould we try next year end and year out.
Grayacre 05-02-2005, 12:08 PM Perhaps Ramsey did have a fair shot at being the starter heading into the preseason, but I doubt it. Given the size of Brunell's contract, I find it very hard to believe that Gibbs believed at the outset that there was a 50/50 chance that Brunell would be riding the pine. It seems far more likely that there was a presumption that Brunell would be starting, unless Ramsey really lit things up during the preseason. In other words, it may be true that Ramsey had a chance to start -- but not an even chance.
As for this year, I think that Ramsey will fulfill more of his potential. Unfortunately, I'd have to agree w/the folks that say he's unlikely to stay when his contract expires. Given the lack of confidence that this team has shown in him, I can't say that I'd blame him for taking the first bus out of town ...
Red Robert 05-02-2005, 12:10 PM What we want here is a Drew Brees situation. If Ramsey blows up that is what we all want. Take us to the playoffs, let Campbell develop. I worry about 2006 when it comes. I just hope Ramsey gets it done. This is a problem I would be happy to have.
Defensewins 05-02-2005, 12:10 PM .... Guys like Marino, Montana, Young just don't come about anymore. the closest we have now is Brady, McNabb, Manning, and Culpepper, and they aren't in the upper echelon just yet....
Roethlisberger had a good start of his career last year, looking good so far. Best rookie year of any NFL QB yet.
If the Colts ever get a defense (Defense wins championships) Manning could be one the greats like Montana.
Loyal?
Didn't Ramsey have a terrible preseason? Didn't Brunell play better than Ramsey during the preseason? Gibbs even gave Ramsey a start or two in the preseason and gave him a fair /even chance at the starting position. When it was time for Ramsey to prove himself ON THE FIELD, he failed miserably this last preseason.
Loyalty has to be earned. You do not get loyalty just because you are a first round pick. IF it worked that way we would still have Heath Shuler as our starter and we would have never drafted Ramsey.
I agree, Ramsey didn't do much to convince the staff last preseason that he should be the starter. Neither did Brunell, difference was Brunell was a proven vet and for Gibbs that meant alot.
Now coming into camp this year, Ramsey has proven that he can operate Gibbs' offense and he's begun to be a guy the staff believes can lead the team.
Defensewins 05-02-2005, 12:25 PM .....Now coming into camp this year, Ramsey has proven that he can operate Gibbs' offense and he's begun to be a guy the staff believes can lead the team.
I agree, and Ramsey earned/proved that to Gibbs on the playing field. Something Ramsey could not do last preseason.
skinsguy 05-02-2005, 01:24 PM Ramsey didn't impress me one bit in last year's preseason - nor - did Mark Brunell. Neither guy looked like someone who could lead a team to the playoffs. I think Ramsey does have the ability, but he's going to have to prove it this season. Who knows, Brunell may come out and look like the Brunell of old....I'm not holding my breath, but now that would be very interesting.
TheMalcolmConnection 05-02-2005, 01:26 PM I hope we never get to see Brunell "come out". I'd love to see Campbell straight up, beat him up for the #2 position.
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