What If?

No doubt about it. We would have to trade Ramsey. One, because Ramsey has value. And two, because Brunell doesn't. Plus, you got to have a veteran QB on your roster. And no, Ramsey is not a veteran. Teams would look at a proposed trade for Campbell but, they would want to see him play more against NFL competition before they trade for him. :oink:
If Ramsey starts every game this season, he will have 45 career starts. That's a veteran. He currently has a positive TD-to-INT ratio, something any coach would look for in a veteran QB (starter or backup). I want Ramsey to succeed as a Redskin more than anything, but it's wise to prepare for the possibility that he won't do so. Having a QB on the roster learning the offense and the speed of the league is a good thing.

I'm way more hyped about this season than last year with the whole 'return of the king' episode. Ramsey has had (will have had) all offseason to learn,and coming off a strong finish in '04, hewil be the man.I truly believe he has the intellegence, confidence and talent to silence all of his doubters. And when I say doubters I mean everyone associated with the NFL.

Why is it that so many people feel Ramsay has gotten such a bad rap from our coaches and front office. Is QB the only position that we don't want any competition. If we signe a few RB does Portis now feel threatend? I Don't think so. Ramsey is the starter and its his job to keep or loose. Last year Ramsey played poorly in preseason and could not keep his starting roll. He could not outperform burnell. Think of that he could not outperform Brunell in preseason . You can make the argument that his convidence was shaken but he was not competing against Manning. Its time for him to show that he is our starting QB and if he is unable to perform we have another QB who is not Brunell who we have start to groom. I am a Ramsey fan and would love to see him take that next step in his game but we do have to be prepared if he does not.

I think the reason people feel that way is because Ramsey was brushed aside pretty soundly when Brunell came into town. I know it was an open competition in camp, but when you have an entrenched starter, I don't feel that should be the case.

I know that Betts was also brushed aside when Portis showed up, but I don't recall Betts being drafted as our #1 back (even though I really like the way the guy runs).

I thought Gibbs made it pretty clear that it was an open compition for QB. Now if when Brunell came in and all of the attention and reps went to Brunell than thats a laget argument. I thought things were split about 50/50 at first until they decided who the starter was.

With the kind of emphasis Gibbs puts on the QB position, there is no way he'd trade Ramsey if he has a good year.

I know that Betts was also brushed aside when Portis showed up, but I don't recall Betts being drafted as our #1 back (even though I really like the way the guy runs).I like Betts too but we should all agree that was a definite upgrade. I do think Gibbs needs to get Betts more involved in the game.

Yes and no, I think the only one in the organazation that hasen't been loyal to Ramsey is Gibbs, not that he owed Patrick anything, I just feel Gibbs pretty much brushed Patrick aside last year without giving him any real consideration. Remember Patrick is Danny's boy, he drafted him, Snyder also didn't want Brunell in here either, and in all liklyhood it was because he believed in Patrick, but as of now the organazation stop's with Gibbs, so yes Patrick has to do backflip's to get some respect from Gibbs.

Loyal?
Didn't Ramsey have a terrible preseason? Didn't Brunell play better than Ramsey during the preseason? Gibbs even gave Ramsey a start or two in the preseason and gave him a fair /even chance at the starting position. When it was time for Ramsey to prove himself ON THE FIELD, he failed miserably this last preseason.
Loyalty has to be earned. You do not get loyalty just because you are a first round pick. IF it worked that way we would still have Heath Shuler as our starter and we would have never drafted Ramsey.

I like Betts too but we should all agree that was a definite upgrade. I do think Gibbs needs to get Betts more involved in the game.

To clarify, Portis is the best runner by far. I'm just saying I've liked the way Betts has played even when overshadowed by a premier back like Portis.