Quarterback Hype

Kelly claims he was offered a first round pick for Bradford. Depending on how high the pick would be, he might be able to trade Bradford and move up to get Mariota.

Likely a lower first if what he's saying is true. Still a long way to go from 20 to the top 5. It would come with a big price.

We do not have a starting QB. Neither the draft nor FA realistically can fix this. Thus IMO a trade benefits us.

Personally I wouldn't mind if we snaked Tennessee and traded for Bradford ourselves.

Give to Philly:
#5 pick - let them have the good but not great Mariota

Get:
* #20 pick - use on S Landon Collins, DE Alvin Dupree, or T La'el Collins
* another pick or player
* Bradford - we now have a starting-caliber QB (he's not the greatest, but starting quality)

If you do not like this plan, then please name who will start at QB for us next year.

Bradford will probably suffer a season-ending knee injury while sleeping in his recliner chair.

Bradford will probably suffer a season-ending knee injury while sleeping in his recliner chair.

LOL. That's the risk with him of course. But the better starting QB option is....?

The O-line needs improvement. But KC only took 7 or 8 sacks. Griffin was sacked over 30 times. If KC can cut down on the terrible INT's he's more than ok with this line.

Thank you.

When the play calls for a three step drop, the offensive line should be able to set up their protection for a three step drop, rather than trying to guess where RG3 is going to hunker down and take an incredibly awkward sack.

We have a mediocre offensive line that could use improvement on the right side. They are only terrible when RG3 is taking the snaps.

Chris Cooley: RGIII was so bad, I can’t assess the rest of the Redskins’ offense - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2014/11/19/chris-cooley-rgiii-was-so-bad-i-cant-assess-the-rest-of-the-redskins-offense/)

If Mariota is there - I believe the Redskins should and will take him. Consensus from draft scouting experts is Mariota is a top 10 player on their big boards.

Why would you take another QB who's an exact clone of RGIII and shares his same flaws? (coming from spread offense) Jay wants no part of it, that much is pretty evident. When are people going to learn you don't draft spread offense QBs unless your plan is to sit them for a good while as they learn? Did anybody listen to Mike Shanahan's interview when he discussed how Robert wasn't ready for a conventional offense even after year 1?? These guys are projects in the biggest form.



let rg get one year where he feels like his job isnt on the line. kills a players confidence. some it helps. some it just irritates and gets in theyre head and they play worse.

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I have a weird feeling that we r going to trade griffin on draft day and take mariota. Anyone else feel this way?

I can see them moving Griffin on trade day, but not drafting Mariota. They'll move back if they can.

Not necessarily.

B) Many folks think that Bradford, when healthy, is better than Foles and way better than Mariota.


Valid point and one that's backed up by an article I read in Feb. about how teams were liking Bradford over Mariota. This goes back to my point about Chip using Bradford as a bargaining piece to move up for MM. Why would he if they valued Bradford over MM? Also, if any teams in top 5-10 valued Bradford over MM, why wouldn't they just trade that pick to the Rams for Bradford? If I"m the Titans and want a QB and think Bradford is better than MM, why not trade the #2 for him? That's provided all the other players on your board rank below Bradford as well.

Why would you take another QB who's an exact clone of RGIII and shares his same flaws? (coming from spread offense) Jay wants no part of it, that much is pretty evident. When are people going to learn you don't draft spread offense QBs unless your plan is to sit them for a good while as they learn? Did anybody listen to Mike Shanahan's interview when he discussed how Robert wasn't ready for a conventional offense even after year 1?? These guys are projects in the biggest form.




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I can see them moving Griffin on trade day, but not drafting Mariota. They'll move back if they can.




Valid point and one that's backed up by an article I read in Feb. about how teams were liking Bradford over Mariota. This goes back to my point about Chip using Bradford as a bargaining piece to move up for MM. Why would he if they valued Bradford over MM? Also, if any teams in top 5-10 valued Bradford over MM, why wouldn't they just trade that pick to the Rams for Bradford? If I"m the Titans and want a QB and think Bradford is better than MM, why not trade the #2 for him? That's provided all the other players on your board rank below Bradford as well.

I don't think Chippy values Bradford more than Mariota. That's why the Bradford trade, by itself, is odd.

Why didn't teams other than Philly trade with the Rams for Bradford? Who knows. Maybe the Rams demanded some sort of starting QB in trade because they don't like Mariota either. If so, neither Tennessee nor the Skins could ante up, because we don't have player trading pieces who resemble starting QB's. :(

I think it's one of those 3-way trades, just in slow motion.

BTW I think you are dead on about why we wouldn't draft Mariota, barring Bruce Allen pulling another McNabb fiasco or ownership falling in love with MM.

Theres a chance Philly wont even look good. All this hype and really what did they upgrade.. Nothing yet. Bradford for Foles, Demarco The Fumble Machine for McCoy. And they drop Maclin.

I don't think Chippy values Bradford more than Mariota. That's why the Bradford trade, by itself, is odd.(

Pat Shurmur - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Shurmur)

This is why I think the Eagles will be staying with Bradford and not moving up.




Theres a chance Philly wont even look good. All this hype and really what did they upgrade.. Nothing yet. Bradford for Foles, Demarco The Fumble Machine for McCoy. And they drop Maclin.

They upgraded their LB core with Kiko. Murray was a sidegrade on the RB and fits better in Chips scheme. They didn't drop Maclin. They offered him a good deal of money, it's just KC offered him a stupid ass amount of money. I think Bradford for Foles is a push in terms of a trade. I wouldn't have done the 2nd rounder though.

Pat Shurmur - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Shurmur)

This is why I think the Eagles will be staying with Bradford and not moving up.






They upgraded their LB core with Kiko. Murray was a sidegrade on the RB and fits better in Chips scheme. They didn't drop Maclin. They offered him a good deal of money, it's just KC offered him a stupid ass amount of money. I think Bradford for Foles is a push in terms of a trade. I wouldn't have done the 2nd rounder though.
Great point.

This isn't fantasy football, Eagles got a lot to prove on the field and a ton of pressure on them.

Remember this is a 10 win team he dismantled, an overrated 10 win team but still