Super Bowl Gameday Thread

Thing is, Tom didn't play very good the first two Super Bowls. I think he played like dog shit if I'm correct. (70-80 QBR) Those years in early 2000s were good to win with or without Tom. In fact, Drew Bledsoe had to get the win in Pittsburgh that year for them to even go to the Super Bowl.

Also, I"m going to compile the numbers and show you guys how good some of those defenses were early on. Those teams weren't flashy nor did they put a bunch of points, but they rode the defense, got turnovers, let Brady manage the game and finish it off with Vinateri's foot.

1st one I would say they needed an Eli Manning type of QB. One who just needs to be clutch. I'll give you the first one that they didn't need elite play for that super bowl. They still needed a clutch QB but not an elite QB

Second one is definitely not true. They almost gave up 400 yards of offense and kept giving up big play after big play. They needed 32 points to win the game. Tom Brady had to throw the ball almost 50 times for 350 yards and 3 touchdowns.

1st one I would say they needed an Eli Manning type of QB. One who just needs to be clutch. I'll give you the first one that they didn't need elite play for that super bowl. They still needed a clutch QB but not an elite QB



Second one is definitely not true. They almost gave up 400 yards of offense and kept giving up big play after big play. They needed 32 points to win the game. Tom Brady had to throw the ball almost 50 times for 350 yards and 3 touchdowns.


Shhhh he is compiling numbers to show you how Brady had nothing to do with those superbowls. Also to show you he is top five all time and awful, great, lucky, unlucky, handsome, ugly, rich, poor, fat, skinny and bald with a head full of luscious hair.

Brady is in the top 3 QB all time...there is no debate

Where do people rank him compared to Manning now? Especially comparing how they played in the Super Bowl vs. similar teams.

Also thinking about the great season Manning had last year.

Where do people rank him compared to Manning now? Especially comparing how they played in the Super Bowl vs. similar teams.

Also thinking about the great season Manning had last year.

Manning is/was great in his own right, but it's no question Brady had the more successful career since he got it done when it counts. Manning and Brady went up against a very similar team in the biggest game of the year and Brady won, whereas Manning got demolished. Even if Manning came back and won another trophy I still think Brady had the better career.

Where do people rank him compared to Manning now? Especially comparing how they played in the Super Bowl vs. similar teams.



Also thinking about the great season Manning had last year.


I always want to give Manning the edge, but not sure i can anymore. I would love to somehow plug Manning into last nights game with all variables being the same and see what would have happened? Is Manning a choker?

Manning is/was great in his own right, but it's no question Brady had the more successful career since he got it done when it counts. Manning and Brady went up against a very similar team in the biggest game of the year and Brady won, whereas Manning got demolished. Even if Manning came back and won another trophy I still think Brady had the better career.

well put

I don't think Manning is a choker.

I think the problem with Manning has been when the game gets ugly it gets really ugly for him. Playoff games are often ugly which is why manning has struggled. I think he pays too much attention to the smallest detail (part of what makes him great) and when those things don't go his way he makes terrible mistakes.

I also think he has only had a truly elite defense one or two times in his career as opposed to Brady having an elite D for his first 3 super bowls (He hasn't had a truly elite defense since then though). But to call him a choker has always been too much in my opinion.

Manning and Brady are both all time greats. This constant need to rank them is exhausting.

Manning and Brady are both all time greats. This constant need to rank them is exhausting.

I think its interesting to rank them, especially since you can make a case for either one.