punch it in
02-02-2015, 01:19 AM
LOL.
No. Brady didn't stop the Seahawks on the goal line or this wouldn't even be in the discussion. If anything, these teams seem to gift wrap these types of games up for Tom. Wilson actually outplayed Brady that game. How about you give the Patriots defense some props. Hell, if the Seahawks run beastmode on that last play, you guys aren't even having this conversation. You would be talking about how Wilson outplayed Tom and the 2 INTs.
So Brady didnt march down the field and go 8-8 for 75 yards to win the game against a great defense? Come on man.
How about Wilson had 12 completions. Brady made a couple bad passes but picked apart one of the greatest pass defenses in history on the biggest stage in the biggest moment and cemented his place in QB Greatness whether you like it or not.
How about if a guy doesnt make a miracle catch on his back you arent even having this conversation. Lol
CrustyRedskin
02-02-2015, 01:29 AM
LOL.
No. Brady didn't stop the Seahawks on the goal line or this wouldn't even be in the discussion. If anything, these teams seem to gift wrap these types of games up for Tom. Wilson actually outplayed Brady that game. How about you give the Patriots defense some props. Hell, if the Seahawks run beastmode on that last play, you guys aren't even having this conversation. You would be talking about how Wilson outplayed Tom and the 2 INTs.
True. But Brady has put his offense in position to win 6 Super Bowls at the end of the game. If it wasn't for two dumb face miracles he'd have them.
NC_Skins
02-02-2015, 01:41 AM
So Brady didnt march down the field and go 8-8 for 75 yards to win the game against a great defense? Come on man.
How about Wilson had 12 completions. Brady made a couple bad passes but picked apart one of the greatest pass defenses in history on the biggest stage in the biggest moment and cemented his place in QB Greatness whether you like it or not.
How about if a guy doesnt make a miracle catch on his back you arent even having this conversation. Lol
In the end, it was the defense that won the game, NOT Tom Brady.
Here is the thing, Tom wouldn't be a "choker" if they lost the game either. It works both ways. You guys give Tom way too much credit and discredit Belichick and that tremendous defense.
In terms of Seattle's defense. Well, they didn't help matters much giving Tom extra chances by defensive off-sides on a 3rd and 3 giving them a 1st and a TD to Gronk. Let's put this notion aside that Tom is doing is all by himself, which is pretty much what you guys want to make it out to be. Also, the Seattle DBs didn't handle the NE WRs like they did Denver's last year. Huge difference in the results as well.
NC_Skins
02-02-2015, 01:43 AM
True. But Brady has put his offense in position to win 6 Super Bowls at the end of the game. If it wasn't for two dumb face miracles he'd have them.
You mean like the tuck miracle? The snow kick miracle? The Jon Kasey kick out of bound miracle? The Vinateri kicks to win it at the last second miracle?
lol.....it's like you guys forget anything that helps Tom. It reminds me of these successful businessmen that act like they did it all on their own and had no help or "luck" along the way.
punch it in
02-02-2015, 01:44 AM
Just stop dude. You obviously hate Brady. Youre not the only one. Not sure what else the guy can do though. Nobody said Brady did this all by himself. Neither did Montana or Bradshaw they were surrounded by HOF'ers. If you want to make the argument that its a team sport thats fine. You want to say the D played great or Edelman or Gronk played great than go ahead. But as far as the QB position goes Brady is as good as it gets.
calia
02-02-2015, 01:49 AM
People in Northern CA are happy cause Seattle lost and the local boys made good. Brady from San Mateo and Julian Edelman from Redwood City.
Yes we sure are. I HOPE Brady sends a "You mad bro?" tweet to Sherman.
If I am Pete Carroll, I'd be looking over my shoulder to make sure lynch isn't lurking. Man. Dumb. He owned it in the post game so I give him credit for that.
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calia
02-02-2015, 01:55 AM
Just stop dude. You obviously hate Brady. Youre not the only one. Not sure what else the guy can do though. Nobody said Brady did this all by himself. Neither did Montana or Bradshaw they were surrounded by HOF'ers. If you want to make the argument that its a team sport thats fine. You want to say the D played great or Edelman or Gronk played great than go ahead. But as far as the QB position goes Brady is as good as it gets.
This. The guys has 4 rings, Super Bowl MvP 3 times, and has never had the surrounding cast that many other championship teams have had. He has had good solid teams and a coach that gets guys to overachieve, but to not give Brady any credit seems insane. Anyone want to trade our QB situation for the last 15 years for New England's?
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punch it in
02-02-2015, 01:57 AM
^ pretty effing please with sugar on top
NC_Skins
02-02-2015, 02:05 AM
Just stop dude. You obviously hate Brady. Youre not the only one. Not sure what else the guy can do though. Nobody said Brady did this all by himself. Neither did Montana or Bradshaw they were surrounded by HOF'ers. If you want to make the argument that its a team sport thats fine. You want to say the D played great or Edelman or Gronk played great than go ahead. But as far as the QB position goes Brady is as good as it gets.
I don't hate Brady. I think he's one of the top 5 QBs of all time. Does that sound like fucking hate to you? What I"m sick and tired of is all these "Tom's never had the talent around him...blah..blah..blah" bullshit. I'm sick and tired of you nut riders giving the guy more credit than what he (or any QB deserves) Even New England fans understand and grasp this, but you guys can't?
Not even mentioning the fact he's with the 2nd best coach of all time. It's not Belichick just "coaching" these guys to play better than what they are. It's talented individuals that do the job week after week. You think Vince Wilfork is just playing above his level? You think Chandler Jones is some scrub that is motivated by BB? McCourty? Revis? Mayo? Hightower? I can go on down the list and most of these guys would replace ANYBODY on our squad. There is talent beyond Tom, you just refuse to recognize it and give them their proper credit. Who exactly is BB getting to "overachieve" on that team?
punch it in
02-02-2015, 02:06 AM
I don't hate Brady. I think he's one of the top 5 QBs of all time. Does that sound like fucking hate to you? What I"m sick and tired of is all these "Tom's never had the talent around him...blah..blah..blah" bullshit. I'm sick and tired of you nut riders giving the guy more credit than what he (or any QB deserves) Even New England fans understand and grasp this, but you guys can't?
Not even mentioning the fact he's with the 2nd best coach of all time. It's not Belichick just "coaching" these guys to play better than what they are. It's talented individuals that do the job week after week. You think Vince Wilfork is just playing above his level? You think Chandler Jones is some scrub that is motivated by BB? McCourty? Revis? Mayo? Hightower? I can go on down the list and most of these guys would replace ANYBODY on our squad. There is talent beyond Tom, you just refuse to recognize it and give them their proper credit.
You mad Bro?