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Redskins8588 04-26-2005, 03:45 PM Your way off base here, a few play's? Did we give up everything for a few plays for Portis? If your going to make comparisons then get them right, Joe Washington was a third down back, we had a player taking the bulk of the handoff's his name was John Riggins, perhaps you heard of him? In Gibbs system as it stands Portis is a 3rd down back he will never last if we contiue to use him as he was last year, that's why JW wasen't a featured back.
If your not going to build your offense around a particular player and take advantage of his abilities, then you don't give up Champ, a second rd. pick, and 50 mil for him, it's that simple!
I still dont get it!!! Why do people on here still insist that Champ would still be here, the FO didnt really want to get rid of him, the FO made an offer and he didnt like it. Also he did not want to be on the team any more. Champ got sick of having a different deffenseive coordinator every year, hell I am surprised that Arrington is even still with us. Anyhow, to make a long story short, the Redskins were going to loose Champ Bailey no matter what!!!!
Daseal 04-26-2005, 04:14 PM Redskins - he's saying it was a waste of a trade if we don't use Portis correctly, which I agree with. Granted Bailey didnt want to be here, but we could have shipped him to a lot of places for great players!
diehardskin2982 04-26-2005, 09:45 PM I think we need a gm because everyone need help.
TheMalcolmConnection 04-26-2005, 09:50 PM Seriously, we should just hire someone that we call GM and lives in an Emerald Palace. That would seriously satisfy some people.
SmootSmack 04-26-2005, 10:05 PM Seriously, we should just hire someone that we call GM and lives in an Emerald Palace. That would seriously satisfy some people.
I've decided to go ahead and give myself the title of General Manager....now about that Emerald Palace
RedskinsJunkie 04-26-2005, 11:01 PM Gibbs, and lose the DANNY...
skinsguy 04-27-2005, 01:46 AM Your way off base here, a few play's? Did we give up everything for a few plays for Portis? If your going to make comparisons then get them right, Joe Washington was a third down back, we had a player taking the bulk of the handoff's his name was John Riggins, perhaps you heard of him? In Gibbs system as it stands Portis is a 3rd down back he will never last if we contiue to use him as he was last year, that's why JW wasen't a featured back.
If your not going to build your offense around a particular player and take advantage of his abilities, then you don't give up Champ, a second rd. pick, and 50 mil for him, it's that simple!
We didn't give up Champ Bailey...Champ WANTED to leave - get it straight!
Don't be so condescending! I have not said to bring Portis in for just a few plays - I said to throw in a few plays that Portis excels in while letting him develop with other running formations that made Joe Gibbs a hall of fame coach. And as I have said which is quite logical and exactly how things were in Gibbs 1.0, put the big guy(s) in on short yardage plays because THAT is what was missing from our offense this past season.
Redskins8588 04-27-2005, 02:34 AM I've decided to go ahead and give myself the title of General Manager....now about that Emerald Palace
I think that you would make a fine GM...
offiss 04-27-2005, 04:59 AM We didn't give up Champ Bailey...Champ WANTED to leave - get it straight!
Don't be so condescending! I have not said to bring Portis in for just a few plays - I said to throw in a few plays that Portis excels in while letting him develop with other running formations that made Joe Gibbs a hall of fame coach. And as I have said which is quite logical and exactly how things were in Gibbs 1.0, put the big guy(s) in on short yardage plays because THAT is what was missing from our offense this past season.
NO! We traded Champ because he wanted out that doesn't mean you give a player away? It is absolutly irrelevant why he's out of here, the only thing that matters is what we recieved for him and why. You make it sound as if Denver was the only option, we could have recieved 2 #1's for Champ with a franchise tag, so why give up a 2nd rd pick and Champ for a player who doesn't fit in to what Gibbs runs? Shawn Alexander was available at the time who I wanted and would have fit Gibbs system and wouldn't have cost us more than Champ straight up, and yet we didn't even consider him, we had to have Portis, why? Because Gibbs saw 1600yds and didn't see the scrubs before him who also ran for 1600yds or there abouts in the Denver system, Mike Anderson? Olandis gary? Ruben Droughns? 3 players who were nothing until denver and nothing after they left denver. [Droughns soon to be] he didn't see how Portis obtained those yards and it wasen't power football!
Make up your mind on what's missing is it Jansen, or a power back? You defend Portis because of a pourous line, then you defend Gibbs because we don't have a big back, as if a big back is going to run through unblocked D-linemen. Either he fits the system or he doesn't?
NY_Skinsfan 04-27-2005, 06:57 AM Because Gibbs saw 1600yds and didn't see the scrubs before him who also ran for 1600yds or there abouts in the Denver system, Mike Anderson? Olandis gary? Ruben Droughns? 3 players who were nothing until denver and nothing after they left denver. [Droughns soon to be] he didn't see how Portis obtained those yards and it wasen't power football!
Offiss, do you really believe this? Do you truly think that Joe Gibbs, the winner of three superbowl rings, would look at one statistic (1600 yards) and say he's are guy? I think you need to step back and do some research on the type of man Joe Gibbs is....there is a reason why the Redskins won those rings with him as the head coach. Have some faith in the man, one not-so-great season from Portis doesn't mean it won't work out.
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