JG or GM?

Gibbs. Period.

I think this question is really setting up a straw man. Why couldn't the Redskins have Gibbs and a quality GM? Casserly was here at the end of Gibbs' last run and obviously Bobby Bethard was GM before him. Dan Snyder's unwillingness to reliquish the reins of control to anyone - except maybe Gibbs - seems to me to constitute the fundamental problem.

this has not been a bad offseason ... the skins have signed and drafted better players than were lost this offseason.

Really? What position did the 'Skins upgrade this offseason? As far as I can tell, there's not a legitimate upgrade at any position. It's arguable that neither Moss nor Patten is even as good as Coles. We have yet to see how Rogers stacks up against Smoot. Pierce will be sorely missed. Where's the upside?

moss and patten are upgrades to coles and gardner in their play and more importantly in their attitudes, casey raback is an upgrade to cory raymer,carlose rogers is an upgrade to smoot( i was never a believer in smoots abilities , smoot was at best a # 2 cb , i feel that carlose rogers will be a # 1 cb by 2006 ) i have yet to see an upgrade at mlb but i'm confident that greg williams will chose someone as good or better than pierce.
there you go.

Joe Gibbs is a great leader, as far as personel and playcalling. I say bring in a GM and an offensive coordinator.

Wait a sec ... Even in a miserable year, Coles caught more balls than Moss did in his best year. Patten would probably be a #3 receiver on another team and, as much as Gardner gets slammed on this site, is a negligible improvement. You're right about Raback. It's a little unfair to Smoot to say that Rogers, who has yet to play a down in the NFL, represents a clear upgrade. Rogers may be a better player eventually, but he's not right now. As for Pierce, what suggests that someone "as good or better" than Pierce is available? What suggests that we'll get that mystery 'backer?

what was the skins biggest problem last year ? the offense. what part of the offense ? the passing game. why ? could not effectivly run the ball. why ? (1) wr could not stretch the field. why ? coles needs toe operation and gardner is ftat out slow. (2) offensive line could not block well enough. why ? janson did not play and cory ramer is pathetic.
SOLUTIONS
start up front. upgrade at the center position ( CASEY RABACK )
get new, faster, more consistant wr (MOSS , PATTEN )
not to mention get jansen back healthy, start patrick ramsey

its pretty simple what gibbs wants to do. he wants good play from the o-line so he can run the ball, he wants wr that can get open downfield so he can throw deep. the wr need to be fast as well as quick so the opposing team's safeties have to respect them. that makes it easier to run the ball. coles was really hampered by his toe and gardner was just to slow. moss and patten are upgrades because they are both fast and quick. you can say what you want about patten but don't be surprised if he leads the skins in receptions this season, he is a very good wr. my feelings on smoot are just my personal opinions, i was just never impressed with him. i truly believe carlos is an upgrade and i truly believe the skins have made the right upgrades on offense. only time will tell.

Wait a sec ... Even in a miserable year, Coles caught more balls than Moss did in his best year. Patten would probably be a #3 receiver on another team and, as much as Gardner gets slammed on this site, is a negligible improvement. You're right about Raback. It's a little unfair to Smoot to say that Rogers, who has yet to play a down in the NFL, represents a clear upgrade. Rogers may be a better player eventually, but he's not right now. As for Pierce, what suggests that someone "as good or better" than Pierce is available? What suggests that we'll get that mystery 'backer?


You're kind of talking out of both sides of your mouth. You're saying that none of our acquistions are improvements over what we had this past season, yet you're saying that's true because they haven't stepped onto the field yet....so it's equally unfair to say they're not improvements by the simple fact that we haven't seen them play yet.

Really? What position did the 'Skins upgrade this offseason? As far as I can tell, there's not a legitimate upgrade at any position. It's arguable that neither Moss nor Patten is even as good as Coles. We have yet to see how Rogers stacks up against Smoot. Pierce will be sorely missed. Where's the upside?

Pierce will be soreley missed!?!?!? A freakin year ago noone knew who the hell pierce was.. and next year no one will know again. Trotter was one of the best MLB in the league (back when it was him and Urlacher going to the pro bowl for NFC) and we didnt use him for what he was, so he sucked for us and we let him go. The exact opposite will be true for Antonio Pierce. Pierce wasn't a starter until that ancient cripple Barrow got hurt, and he did do well for us, but it was more the system that succeeded. No matter who was hurt, our D stepped up and made plays.

I miss smoot because of his attitude, but in GW's system you have to be able to TACKLE a freaking QB when you have a wide open shot. How many times did we see his ass flying through the air right by a wide open QB. Rogers has proven to be a physical well rounded corner, but you'll see that.

And my little sister would be an upgrade for Coles's last season. Ninety catches for how many yards??? You do the math. And how many balls did he drop. He was a hell of an athelete who never gave up and played with heart, but he wasn't productive last year. James Thrash plays with just as much heart.