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JoeRedskin 01-20-2015, 02:00 PM I don't have any particular beef with Barry, honestly. Who knows, after learning from his stint in Detroit, maybe he is the next big thing. However, I am not particularly excited by the hire and it smacks me of the same old, same old.
On the other hand, I will be peeved it RM is retained. If RM is promoted to Asst. HC Defense or some such crap (of which I have heard rumblings), I am likely to cause serious property damage to my house, car and/or electronics.
mooby 01-20-2015, 02:01 PM Doesn't matter about Fangio really? We have shit personnel and it's not like he's going to make gold out of poop. Besides, why would we trot him in here with a huge possibility of them cutting ties with Gruden next season?
I agree with your last point but defensive turnarounds happen every year. I will be rooting for Barry but really don't see much to get excited about at this point.
Lotus 01-20-2015, 02:03 PM I don't have any particular beef with Barry, honestly. Who knows, after learning from his stint in Detroit, maybe he is the next big thing. However, I am not particularly excited by the hire and it smacks me of the same old, same old.
On the other hand, I will be peeved it RM is retained. If RM is promoted to Asst. HC Defense or some such crap (of which I have heard rumblings), I am likely to cause serious property damage to my house, car and/or electronics.
You are like the 5th person to threaten property destruction with a Morris hire.
Schneed10 01-20-2015, 02:05 PM What I really want to know is whether Jay Gruden and Joe Barry know one another? Or is this a Bruce Allen connection? Maybe one of you guys can enlighten me.
Depending on the answer, it begs one of the following questions:
1) Why the F is Bruce Allen finding candidates for coaches?? It should be Jay's hire, Jay's search. If Bruce has any say in assistant coaching hires then I'm going to freak the F out.
2) What in the world made Jay Gruden think Barry was the man for the job when Wade Phillips was available.
PS if true that the Redskins ruled out Wade because of his age they just violated the Civil Rights Act.
That Guy 01-20-2015, 02:07 PM this seems like a weak hire. i'll wait, but i would have gone with WP.
over the mountain 01-20-2015, 02:08 PM You are like the 5th person to threaten property destruction with a Morris hire.
He was the secondary coach for a very poor secondary for years now.
i was also in the "anybody but morris" camp but cooley said position coachs do not get much say in weekly game plans and are generally relegated to "yes men". he sd he really liked morris, he knows football and the players really like him.
as a casual fan, it is hard for me to know what is and isnt a good hire. Track record of Fangio with 4 straight top 5 defenses is damn impressive. I dont need window dressing of "good motivator" or "players coach" with a track record like that.
Im willing to give morris a chance to stay on if Barry likes him.
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"Please... PLEASE! Let this happen."
https://bolttalk.com/threads/redskin-to-hire-joe-barry-as-next-dc.29198/
^^^ first post on a chargers fan forum talking about losing Barry. To try and pre-gauge a situation, I like to see what fans of that team thinks. Its not scientific but its a good start.
Odd that they seem more interested in discussing back to the future, the movie.
With the Lauvaua signing, every single fan was glad he was gone and couldnt understand why we made him a day 1 FA priority to the tune of 17m for 4 yrs.
SirLK26 01-20-2015, 02:14 PM What I really want to know is whether Jay Gruden and Joe Barry know one another? Or is this a Bruce Allen connection? Maybe one of you guys can enlighten me.
Depending on the answer, it begs one of the following questions:
1) Why the F is Bruce Allen finding candidates for coaches?? It should be Jay's hire, Jay's search. If Bruce has any say in assistant coaching hires then I'm going to freak the F out.
2) What in the world made Jay Gruden think Barry was the man for the job when Wade Phillips was available.
PS if true that the Redskins ruled out Wade because of his age they just violated the Civil Rights Act.
Both. Gruden and Barry(as well as Morris) coached together in Tampa... and Allen was the GM for part of those years.
Lotus 01-20-2015, 02:21 PM What I really want to know is whether Jay Gruden and Joe Barry know one another? Or is this a Bruce Allen connection? Maybe one of you guys can enlighten me.
Depending on the answer, it begs one of the following questions:
1) Why the F is Bruce Allen finding candidates for coaches?? It should be Jay's hire, Jay's search. If Bruce has any say in assistant coaching hires then I'm going to freak the F out.
2) What in the world made Jay Gruden think Barry was the man for the job when Wade Phillips was available.
PS if true that the Redskins ruled out Wade because of his age they just violated the Civil Rights Act.
As team President Allen is responsible for every hire so you can be sure he had a say in it. That's what team Presidents do.
JoeRedskin 01-20-2015, 02:29 PM It was (probably) Gruden's hire with veto authority by BA. Who knows, maybe this is a "I've had my eye on him for a while now" type hire by Gruden.
It certainly smells funny to me b/c of all the Tampa connections, but who knows. No choice but to see. I have been firmly in Gruden's corner. Hopefully, this is his hire. If Barry pans out and we see some baseline improvement, then I am okay with that (Just by the eyeball test, I think the talent here is better than the talent he had in Detroit. Not by much, but still better).
On the other hand, if the D doesn't show some improvement, then sweep clean in 2016 and turn the keys of the franchise over to Scot McC.
Remember, in SF, McC was hired by Mike Nolan but then McC won the power struggle and fired Nolan the next year. If history has to repeat itself to get a winner around here, so be it.
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