Gibbs: "We had a really good draft!"

Can we at least wait until some of these players take to the field before we judge them . Equally can we give Gibbs time to build a team before we rip him and his plans to bits .

I totally agree with you...but if we don't judge them now what will we talk about? I'd hate to wait until September to read new posts here on the Warpath

Let's not diss Joe Gibbs like that he is still the coach that got us 3 super bowls. I mean Campbell made alot of Patrick Ramsey fans mad but get over it. I am glad we drafted a QB better than going to the free agent market getting dinosaurs. I hope we draft a QB about every 2 years keep them young and fresh you never know when you find the next Tom Brady. The patriots have drafted like 10 QB's over their super bowl run you dont find Tom Brady's by research alone you take chances the draft is a gamble. Personally i think Braylon Edwards will be the next Michael Westbrook who knows? you have to think about the team first Ramsey second. Ramsey has yet to prove anything except he's tough but in the nfl if the redskins are gonna return to prominence you need a QB that dont give up all those sacks and throw all those interceptions. Plus Campbell went undefeated in the (SEC mind you) in an offense similar to ours. Why hasn't anyone posted any interviews from Campbell gee whiz. Dont treat the guy like that yet. Lord forbid he have a season like Ramsey's last year everyone here would be ready to cut him. I'm wit Coach Gibbs on this one so shoot me.

To all the post that say Gibbs has not given Ramsey a chance to prove himself are totaly wrong. He had prseason last year and look terrible. He had seven games last year and showed some signs of improving but nothing great. To say that signing another QB hurts his convidence then he must not have alot of convidence in himself and his skills. This is a sport that you have to prove yourself every time on the field and Ramsey has on shown flashes of a starting QB and thats all. He will have the opportunity again this year and if he cannot show he can lead this team we are forced to look in another direction. With Brunell we know he cannot lead this team to the playoffs and we had to have a QB in position if this happens. I was surprised by the pick and I hope Ramsey can show he has the tallent to lead our team.

I know we all talk about bringing along a QB slow, but I really would like to see Campbell beat out Brunell in camp to be the #2. I'd prefer him anyday as a backup (provided Brunell really HAS lost it).

Let's put a couple of issues to bed here.

#1, the current group of Skins WRs are not Canton-bound nor are they one of the best corps in the league. Are they a group with some potential? Sure. Let's leave it at that.

#2, If a player isn't Canton-bound, does that mean they are complete scrubs? Definitely not. Show me any NFL roster and I'll show you a large majority of that roster that is NOT Canton-bound.

#3, I know we are all draft and NFL personnel gurus ;) , but can we at least give this current draft crop a year before they are ultimately judged? Let's at least give these guys a shot to get on the field. Last year we made some questionable acquisitions in a lot of people's eyes (Griffin, Springs) and they ended up playing at a Pro Bowl level.

Overall we made some nice personnel moves last year, let's give this current group a chance to at least hit the field. That's all I ask.

I know we all play alot of Madden and we know what to look for, but for now maybe we should give the benefit of the doubt to this staff who does this for a full-time job and have been studying these players hours upon hours a day for the last few months.

Just like you were saying Matty, the Griffin and Springs signings were questionable, and even though I wasn't on the board at the time, my current circle of friends was like "WTF, I can't believe we are signing MORE has-beens." Gibbs helped make those signings happen and it seems as though the vast majority of them have panned out. No one could predict Barrow's knee would do what it did.

I too, questioned the QB move, but it has been brought up in many posts how Gibbs is building the franchise and not just trying to "win now". I definitely agree before we have complete flipouts (offiss, you are freaking out dude:)), we trust in judgement even if it IS questionable. I too, would have liked Williams, but it seems there is a rhyme and a reason to it all when all the highly intelligent minds here have posted good arguments for it.

Matty, you are always the voice of reason! Kudos to you my friend! I agree 100% with you!
I like the Madden comment! :-P

Here's the difference. When Gibbs had all those great QBs - who was picking in the draft. hint: It wasn't Gibbs.

Correction: It wasn't ONLY Gibbs. Don't think Gibbs didn't have a say so in who he wanted on the team. Maybe not as much in the early years, but after he had a couple Super Bowl appearances under his belt, to assume he never had a say so would be naive.

Correction: It wasn't ONLY Gibbs. Don't think Gibbs didn't have a say so in who he wanted on the team. Maybe not as much in the early years, but after he had a couple Super Bowl appearances under his belt, to assume he never had a say so would be naive.

Exactly.

I think there's this misconception that Beathard was 100% in charge of personnel, that's just not true. Gibbs has always had a say in personnel decisions.